Giles Corey wrote:
coach wrote:
New York City is still locked down but the death rates have gone down dramatically. You'd think the longer the lockdown the more deaths we'd have because of joblessness, depression, etc... but it seems to he the opposite.
So the lockdown 1st killed a bunch of folks but at some point it began saving people?
WTF?
LOL...it's like a light bulb just went off in your head but you are too dumb to realize it.
Harambe wrote:
All of America will be forced to take it.
You're going to take it willingly though.
dunes runner wrote:
Harambe wrote:
All of America will be forced to take it.
You're going to take it willingly though.
Consent matters not when we are all subjugated. You are as I am, chained by the state.
Nothing you can do will change that, brother.
Harambe wrote:
Consent matters not when we are all subjugated. You are as I am, chained by the state.
Nothing you can do will change that, brother.
That you feel that way is truly quite sad.
Giles Corey wrote:
coach wrote:
New York City is still locked down but the death rates have gone down dramatically. You'd think the longer the lockdown the more deaths we'd have because of joblessness, depression, etc... but it seems to he the opposite.
So the lockdown 1st killed a bunch of folks but at some point it began saving people?
WTF?
Again if people are committing suicide because of the lockdown, if people are overdosing because of being locked down for so long than NYC (which hasn't opened at all) would still have a steady death toll. However the death toll has gone down dramatically, thus your remark that extra deaths are a result of being locked down, at least in NY is wrong.
coach wrote:
Giles Corey wrote:
So the lockdown 1st killed a bunch of folks but at some point it began saving people?
WTF?
Again if people are committing suicide because of the lockdown, if people are overdosing because of being locked down for so long than NYC (which hasn't opened at all) would still have a steady death toll. However the death toll has gone down dramatically, thus your remark that extra deaths are a result of being locked down, at least in NY is wrong.
So long, then NYC
You can go back 100 years without finding a single flu pandemic year with anywhere near the death toll or death rate of COVID in the United States. The worst previous influenza pandemic after Spanish flu had 670/million dead. The United States right now is at 478,532 dead and a death rate of 1,441/million. So, we are well past double the worst death rate of a pandemic in the hundred years since the Spanish flu with weeks to go in the first year of significant #'s of fatalities (roughly the second half of March started the march toward the big #'s of April-May). Most flu years have around 20k-30k dead. We'll be around thirty times that by the end of this. The worst flu pandemic in 50 years (2017-18) had 61k dead, or about 1/8 the COVID total so far.
Death tolls have gone up just weeks after infection totals go up, and down when infection totals go down, so there's been no major death toll from effects of the shutdown and distancing themselves. In fact, they've saved lives in fewer traffic fatalities, at least during major shutdown times, and suicide rates don't account for much. Republican states actually have far more excess deaths beyond Coronavirus-declared deaths because they are not identifying coronavirus as the cause of death in many cases where it is.
Shutdowns and distancing have also cut the flu death rate this year by an extraordinary level, which goes back to masks, distancing, and their effects on the spread of flu in the Southern hemisphere last summer, where flu was virtually non-existent because of masks, distancing, and shutdowns.
"A total of 155 laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations were reported by FluSurv-NET sites between October 1, 2020 and January 30, 2021 for an overall cumulative hospitalization rate of 0.5 per 100,000 population."
But if you add pneumonia (often covid-related), flu (virtually non-existent this year), and COVID, you get 4x the deaths that constitute the pandemic threshold.
Make that epidemic threshold:
"PIC Mortality - The PIC mortality rate is the rate of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza, or COVID-19. In a non-COVID year, this is called P&I (pneumonia and influenza). This week's PIC rate is 28.4% which is above the epidemic threshold of 7.1%. Currently the majority of PIC deaths are due to COVID-19."
77990jh wrote:
No! This doesn't fit our narrative. Oh and Biden doesn't have Dementia. Wear a mask!!
You are correct sir! Biden is just a very dimwitted individual.
xczvzxcv wrote:
You can go back 100 years without finding a single flu pandemic year with anywhere near the death toll or death rate of COVID in the United States. The worst previous influenza pandemic after Spanish flu had 670/million dead. The United States right now is at 478,532 dead and a death rate of 1,441/million. So, we are well past double the worst death rate of a pandemic in the hundred years since the Spanish flu with weeks to go in the first year of significant #'s of fatalities (roughly the second half of March started the march toward the big #'s of April-May). Most flu years have around 20k-30k dead. We'll be around thirty times that by the end of this. The worst flu pandemic in 50 years (2017-18) had 61k dead, or about 1/8 the COVID total so far.
You are looking through blurred vision. The truth is the percentage of the population that died this year is comparable to an ordinary year up to and including the second world war. The overall death rate was about 10% higher this year than it was supposed to be. A lot of that is due to the fact that we are keeping weak individuals alive longer using miracle drugs. Most people that get COVID have a mild illness for a few days and are fine, it is primarily only those that are already compromised that are dying of this.
xczvzxcv wrote:
You can go back 100 years without finding a single flu pandemic year with anywhere near the death toll or death rate of COVID in the United States. The worst previous influenza pandemic after Spanish flu had 670/million dead. The United States right now is at 478,532 dead and a death rate of 1,441/million. So, we are well past double the worst death rate of a pandemic in the hundred years since the Spanish flu with weeks to go in the first year of significant #'s of fatalities (roughly the second half of March started the march toward the big #'s of April-May). Most flu years have around 20k-30k dead. We'll be around thirty times that by the end of this. The worst flu pandemic in 50 years (2017-18) had 61k dead, or about 1/8 the COVID total so far.
It's all in the counting.
94% of the Covid deaths total you cite had deadly comorbidities. We are shown an extremely inflated number of people who died "with" Covid. Very dishonest. If you tested positive for Covid within the past month and get killed in an accident, you get added to the total.
We are not being informed. We are being misinformed.
xczvzxcv wrote:
You can go back 100 years without finding a single flu pandemic year with anywhere near the death toll or death rate of COVID in the United States. The worst previous influenza pandemic after Spanish flu had 670/million dead. The United States right now is at 478,532 dead and a death rate of 1,441/million. So, we are well past double the worst death rate of a pandemic in the hundred years since the Spanish flu with weeks to go in the first year of significant #'s of fatalities (roughly the second half of March started the march toward the big #'s of April-May). Most flu years have around 20k-30k dead. We'll be around thirty times that by the end of this. The worst flu pandemic in 50 years (2017-18) had 61k dead, or about 1/8 the COVID total so far.
Deaths in the US have been close to 3 million a year and no one bats an eye. Now we get mask zombies, vax hysteria, panic, fear porn, shut downs, depressions, millions forced to lose jobs and businesses, fear of your neighbor and other humans, social disconnections, etc. Unbelievable how far this has been taken.
No flu this year.
Nothing suspicious about that
The Unkle wrote:
No flu this year.
Nothing suspicious about that
Masks and social distancing work you dolt.
the truth. wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
No flu this year.
Nothing suspicious about that
Masks and social distancing work you dolt.
Only for the flu and not for covid, right? You dolt.
joed1rtty2 wrote:
You are looking through blurred vision. The truth is the percentage of the population that died this year is comparable to an ordinary year up to and including the second world war. The overall death rate was about 10% higher this year than it was supposed to be. A lot of that is due to the fact that we are keeping weak individuals alive longer using miracle drugs. Most people that get COVID have a mild illness for a few days and are fine, it is primarily only those that are already compromised that are dying of this.
"We should go back to the good old days where... people died younger. Yeah, that's the real problem here, people aren't dying young enough!"
The rest of what you said is wrong unless you assert that much of America is "compromised" -- in which case your argument loses its weight.
ImpaIa31 wrote:
the truth. wrote:
Masks and social distancing work you dolt.
Only for the flu and not for covid, right? You dolt.
Flu 98% gone and they are trying to pretend it's due to masks and social distancing, the same things we are told we are not doing when they tell us Covid is surging.
The official story is plain nuts but people do cling to it.
COVID probably more contagious than flu (people have some immunity against most flu variants).