A bunch of HSer are going to try to go sub-4 in the mile on Saturday (May 23)

rojo wrote:

Amory wrote:

I agree. I don't see how milesplit or whoever can claim the rights to an informal high school time trial

I assume one of the coaches putting it on wanted a few hundred bucks so he said they could have exclusive rights. Probably use that money to pay for timer, hotel, etc.

If they did it without a cash payment, they are idiots.

Calling other people idiots? Right because that's what you do. That's your thing. And you ban anyone who calls YOU an idiot. Ban them or kick them off the team.

rojo wrote:

Amory wrote:

I agree. I don't see how milesplit or whoever can claim the rights to an informal high school time trial

I assume one of the coaches putting it on wanted a few hundred bucks so he said they could have exclusive rights. Probably use that money to pay for timer, hotel, etc.

If they did it without a cash payment, they are idiots.

True. Do we know if this is going to be officially timed or hand timed?

Where's the main info source for this?

rojo wrote:

I assume one of the coaches putting it on wanted a few hundred bucks so he said they could have exclusive rights. Probably use that money to pay for timer, hotel, etc.

Maybe, but how could one coach give away the rights of everyone else and all the participants? There is way too much shady stuff going on with taking of the rights to films and videos.

Even if it is officially timed and someone/multiple people break 4, how many people on here will discredit it?

Anyway my bet is at least 4 of them will break 4, with first place running a 3:57-8.

Or no one goes under 4:05.

what time are they starting?

Stream starts at 8 PST 10 CST. I think the race starts 15 or 30 mins after that.

Rocket Mann wrote:

Even if it is officially timed and someone/multiple people break 4, how many people on here will discredit it?

Anyway my bet is at least 4 of them will break 4, with first place running a 3:57-8.

Or no one goes under 4:05.

If it's on video I don't see how it could be discredited, unless the results are doctored in some way.

I think 4 under 4 is optimistic. My optimistic bet is one sub 4, the rest a couple seconds back.

To answer a lot of questions: It's happening at Oak Ridge hs.

I just meant discredited in the way that a lot of people were discrediting Brynn Brown's 3200 TT the other day. This is a lot more like a regular HS race though, save for the pacer.

I think 4 under for is really optimistic, but if I get it right then it'll look really cool.

Rocket Mann wrote:

I just meant discredited in the way that a lot of people were discrediting Brynn Brown's 3200 TT the other day. This is a lot more like a regular HS race though, save for the pacer.

I think 4 under for is really optimistic, but if I get it right then it'll look really cool.

I haven't read that thread...did she have male pacers for the whole race?

I'll do you one better and say 5 under 4 then!

Yeah she did, still a sub 9:40 3200 is incredible.

Its crazy how deep this year's field is. There's 4+ runners that could have realistically broken 4 (Not all in this race). The 3k record was broken indoors, and possibly the 2 mile and 5k outdoor records could have been broken.

There was an absurdly good girls class too. The greatest girl XC runner, a junior came in just above the 2 mile record, several girls had great 1 mile times.

I'm really glad this race is going on, even if no one breaks 4, we'll still get some fast times as opposed to none.

Interesting...still an incredibly impressive time nonetheless.

This is great. It’s time we stopped all the bs and got back to things like real running, a group mile effort.

fromtheboards wrote:

Fragemeister wrote:

The question was about the difficulty of a 3:50 runner trying to go 4:00. Not Heckle.

Probably depends on the pace, I know pre was a 3:52 guy I believe and he ran sub 4 in a workout once for the crowd with the smog

I’m sure it was tough but not the end all effort

You're not a Pre historian. His PR was 3:54 and his smoggy was not during a workout.

Amory wrote:

rojo wrote:

I assume one of the coaches putting it on wanted a few hundred bucks so he said they could have exclusive rights. Probably use that money to pay for timer, hotel, etc.

If they did it without a cash payment, they are idiots.

True. Do we know if this is going to be officially timed or hand timed?

Where's the main info source for this?

FAT timing, accredited officials, 7 racers.

It's more real than TTs, and arguably more closely resembles a real HS race than most of the other Sub4 HS milers races did.

..... Especially compared to Pre where Hunter, Webb and others raced against pros and elite college athletes.

....For that matter, it's way more real than Kipchoge running sub2.

~in the know~ wrote:

To answer a lot of questions: It's happening at Oak Ridge hs.

I live about 20 minutes ORHS. What time are they running?

Thanks for the info! Is there an event page for this?

fromtheboards wrote:

I know pre was a 3:52 guy I believe and he ran sub 4 in a workout once for the crowd with the smog I’m sure it was tough but not the end all effort

SDSU Aztec wrote:

His PR was 3:54 and his smoggy was not during a workout.

It was smoke and he shouldn't have raced. The farmers were burning the fields around Eugene and the air was saturated with smoke, which notably affected him physically. He said afterward that he shouldn't have raced but he didn't want to disappoint the crowd that was there to see him.

Milesplit and Flotrack are the kings of everything track and cross country. Flotrack streams every major college and professional track meet and cross country meet in the US. Many of you have admitted to not subscribing which means that you are not watching but somehow think you are educated enough to come to this site and comment on the people and the races. A few of you have also commented that you don't know the kids in this mile race even though 5 of them are among the top runners in the country.

I am grateful that Milesplit is streaming this meet. They do no need to. While I am enjoying seeing a few of the only kids in history break 4 minutes, many of you complainers will be on this site arguing about Covid 19. The non-Milesplit crowd goes home devastated.