Hobbs, even though he’s not 20 yet, and just like Colin, is no longer an u20 (finished his eligibility on 31/12/22).
Would have been really cool to see them at world u20 on the track last year.
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two fer wrote:
king999 wrote:
First of all, I said I was a "homer" , secondly, you are right, I was going off a last effort racing form. I thought Langon moved lust a few hundred yards too soon, even when I saw it live and I did watch the entire race.It was a great "man up" effort by Young for sure. More than justifying the continued hype on here...LOL. That's a joke.
Take it easy, I admit when I am off by a little, not much, Langon ran really well here as well. Young ran a really powerful last incline to put it away, a very very good race overall, and certainly for him.
Hey there, how cool would it have been to see Hobbs Kessler out there today?
Not a possibility for many reasons
one is he turns 20 in March , i think you cannot turn 20 in the year the race is in?
other reasons? You cannot possibly be serious? Are you? Lol.
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joe mother wrote:
Stillwater course is fast wrote:
So much talk about the OK state course being slow. It’s just false. I’m good conditions like this year it is a moderate course.
I live near Stillwater, and the course isn't Impossibly tough by any means, but it's nothinng like the grass tracks you see California high schoolers run.
California xc courses are dirt.
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WU20runner wrote:
Hobbs, even though he’s not 20 yet, and just like Colin, is no longer an u20 (finished his eligibility on 31/12/22).
Would have been really cool to see them at world u20 on the track last year.
Oh, okay, thanks.
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king999 wrote:
two fer wrote:
Hey there, how cool would it have been to see Hobbs Kessler out there today?
Not a possibility for many reasons
one is he turns 20 in March , i think you cannot turn 20 in the year the race is in?
other reasons? You cannot possibly be serious? Are you? Lol.
He seems to get in some decent mileage, and I think Jim Ryun ran some cross country. I thought it would be interesting to see. Has he ever run cross country. I apologize for my ignorance; I’ll go check his Wikipedia page.
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Very impressive performance from Young, 23:47. The level of performances in general at USA XC among the juniors is so much higher than it used to be, with the exception of the year Teg beat Ritz (2001) and then Ritz took 3rd and Teg 5th behind Bekele at World Jr XC.
Leo looks to slot in very well at college 8k next year, and notably the twins are eligible next year as well for U20 championships, as they turn 20 in 2025. This is a nice consolation prize for having an off day at NXN. We could have our best junior team at World's in a long time if all of the qualifiers make the trip.
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I would have liked to see Kessler run if they had had it last year when he turned 19. He does good 4M tempos at 7,000 feet, so 8k is not out of his range.
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xczvzxcv wrote:
Very impressive performance from Young, 23:47. The level of performances in general at USA XC among the juniors is so much higher than it used to be, with the exception of the year Teg beat Ritz (2001) and then Ritz took 3rd and Teg 5th behind Bekele at World Jr XC.
Leo looks to slot in very well at college 8k next year, and notably the twins are eligible next year as well for U20 championships, as they turn 20 in 2025. This is a nice consolation prize for having an off day at NXN. We could have our best junior team at World's in a long time if all of the qualifiers make the trip.
The last time the US won a junior team medal was in 1982.
I am not expecting the US to win a junior team medal with that team.
Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda and Eritrea are simply too strong. Top 5 maybe, but that will be hard.
US team:
Leo: 8:42 (2 miles)
Wilson: 8:19 (3000m), 14:38 (5000m)
Langon: 8:48 (3200m)
Jenkins: 8:50 (3200m)
Sannes: 14:29 (5000m)
Venhuizen: 8:56 (2 miles)
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two fer wrote:
king999 wrote:
Not a possibility for many reasons
one is he turns 20 in March , i think you cannot turn 20 in the year the race is in?
other reasons? You cannot possibly be serious? Are you? Lol.
He seems to get in some decent mileage, and I think Jim Ryun ran some cross country. I thought it would be interesting to see. Has he ever run cross country. I apologize for my ignorance; I’ll go check his Wikipedia page.
Yes he ran some pretty impressive XC races as a senior in HS. Here is his most impressive result :
https://live.pttiming.com/XC-PTT.html?mid=2080
The whole NP team with both Sahlman both Young and Christian Simone, Kole Mathison, Riley Houghand a lot of other big names.
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Rojo in his element today getting the clutch interviews. And that white Volkswagen had the best parking in the lot.
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Reid the odd man out. No longer with ON Running. Maybe would have made the team had he not raced a half marathon 6 days ago.
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Aaron Templeton listed as unatt, finally moved on from TME?
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two fer wrote:
king999 wrote:
Not a possibility for many reasons
one is he turns 20 in March , i think you cannot turn 20 in the year the race is in?
other reasons? You cannot possibly be serious? Are you? Lol.
He seems to get in some decent mileage, and I think Jim Ryun ran some cross country. I thought it would be interesting to see. Has he ever run cross country. I apologize for my ignorance; I’ll go check his Wikipedia page.
I believe Kessler has the third best or fourth fastest time ever on Mich State course and ran 8:39 yards with a 25.x penultimate 220. In his only real two mile and drilled Gavin Sherry in that last 440
he could have easily been s monster in 8 or 10k cross and when he was 3:34 fit, coukd surely have run sun 8:29 yards
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Mnnnnn wrote:
In which State did the top 6 senior guys graduate HS in?
Brace yourself Betsie.....
You are not required to graduate from a US High School to be a US Citizen or run in a USATF Championship.
Go Army!!!!
Alan
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Bor unsponsored? Wearing the Army jersey I'm assuming he's still in WCAP.
Alan
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Runningart2004 wrote:
Mnnnnn wrote:
In which State did the top 6 senior guys graduate HS in?
Brace yourself Betsie.....
You are not required to graduate from a US High School to be a US Citizen or run in a USATF Championship.
Go Army!!!!
Alan
Alan, maybe you or someone else can shed light on why Cheserek, never attained citizenship for the U.S. ? I am a NJ guy and no one seems to know, he has been here since 15-16..16-17 if you want to say he was old then, racked up amazing hardware for Oregon or Phil Knight U......and no one did anything for him, really, his clock should have started at 17 at least and he is now..28? I know a bunch of folks in the "industry, so to speak, not one knows the back story as to why 11 years later Ches was never pushed thru to citizenship. Quite frankly illegals have gotten more help than Ches. No one seems to know why? Even if a small college transgression....still? After all he did for the Ole Alma Mater Ducks? You would think they would have fast tracked him?
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I think that's correct. Tollefson was saying on the broadcast that it's a shame he's not, and any sponsor watching needs to give Bor a call.
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king999 wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Brace yourself Betsie.....
You are not required to graduate from a US High School to be a US Citizen or run in a USATF Championship.
Go Army!!!!
Alan
Alan, maybe you or someone else can shed light on why Cheserek, never attained citizenship for the U.S. ? I am a NJ guy and no one seems to know, he has been here since 15-16..16-17 if you want to say he was old then, racked up amazing hardware for Oregon or Phil Knight U......and no one did anything for him, really, his clock should have started at 17 at least and he is now..28? I know a bunch of folks in the "industry, so to speak, not one knows the back story as to why 11 years later Ches was never pushed thru to citizenship. Quite frankly illegals have gotten more help than Ches. No one seems to know why? Even if a small college transgression....still? After all he did for the Ole Alma Mater Ducks? You would think they would have fast tracked him?
My guess is we don't know the back story. I can not speak on the citizenship process as a whole. I only understand the smart part as it relates to military service. My assumption is that your background would need to be squeaky clean, but again I do not know.
According to this:148,000 immigrants have earned citizenship through military service. I've worked with a handful from South America and the Middle East.
Alan
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...over the last 20 years....
Am i missing the edit button? I do not see it on mobile.
Alan
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