Official 2015 IAAF Doha Diamond League Live Discussion Thread

Farah finishing 2nd is a good thing. Huge weight lifted off his shoulders. Now he can approach these next few races with less pressure and do what he does best.

Darn, I missed the meet. Does anyone have splits from the 3000?

Surprised and disappointed it went 7:38 until I saw the temperature.

and 9.74? C'mon.....

Popful Mail wrote:

Honestly the Gatlin drug stuff doesn't bother me greatly. It's not like he's competing against clean Americans and Jamaicans.

99.99 percent of all Americans are on drugs.

The ones who keep mentioning them are the ones who love them the most.

i.e. THE BROJOS

and RADCLIFFE

EPO man Mo is finished wrote:

Mo is finished. He likely had to lay off his etc etc ....

Mo's body has been changing, which happens to all men at a certain age and then they can no longer run as fast as they used to do. Sadly, Mo has reached that point and now he is toast.

What the hell happened to Lavillenie, when did he scratch

oh also ha ha Mo Farah loses England sucks

and finally Mo Aman 1:47 WTF? I have never heard of him running a 1:47. He needs to go back and train wherever he was before.

Took me a minute or so to figure out where he is going this year with 1500

Now, I expected if this was a perfect 800, he wouda gone ~ 1'42-high beforehand

( this meet obviously a disaster for everyone in field except him )

I didn't realise what a 13'20 in a tactical race for him meant

It probably means he has current "extrapolated" 5k ability of 13'00 / 13'05 flat-out

( "extrapolated", meaning like Rudy has "extrapolated 3'26 / 3'27 ability at 800 peak but more like realistic 3'35 - huge drop off in predicted ability after 1k race distance as does only 800 training )

Now, Souly probably has 47.0 current speed, which is par for most elite 1500 guys

47.00 / 13'05 ->

1'42.67

2'11.83 !!

3'27.26 !!

47.00 / 13'00 ->

1'42.45 !!

2'11.47 !!!

3'26.47 !!!

He is definitely capable of the 1k WR this year in an ideal race with small field & get to lane 1 early

I thought it strange his flash quote was :

I wondered why he wasn't really interested in 800 for Peking after whupping lotta top 800 guys

Answer is, he probably is capable of running around 3'27-flat right now !!!

Henrik Ingebrigsten struggled today in the heat...

Surprised he chose to compete in such a hot race, people from Norway can't compete like that.

Jasmin Stowers will dominate this year and will probably break the WR. No one is in her league.

ventolin,

can you comment on Mo's race , please

Thank you

Here's the real cause wrote:

EPO man Mo is finished wrote:

Mo is finished. He likely had to lay off his etc etc ....

Mo's body has been changing, which happens to all men at a certain age and then they can no longer run as fast as they used to do. Sadly, Mo has reached that point and now he is toast.

This is funny. I hope everyone else laughed at this. Post of the day.

tony the tiger wrote:ventolin,

can you comment on Mo's race , please

Thank you

i was just oblvious to total mo awesomeness for 5k/10k golds for peking / rio / where then ???

it better have a proper tj run-up, because the tj board in doha looked thieved from local muni by inept rascals

it was a total fuuckin joke

doha needs proper tj runway

anyhows

i forgot mo ran 59'32 after awesome 8'03iwr

it finished him

Mo shoud never have run this unless

$$$

it has killed his speed

yes, this race has killed him

the age is too much

that kenyan 1/2M champ will hurt him too much over 10k

there are too many 5k predators

It is typically this hot. The slow times show that testing is getting better?

Alamirew won in 7:27 in 2011...

:)Vent, are you drunk? I twice put the contents of your post into Google Translate to convert it to English, and the Google just showed a big question mark.

ventolin^3 wrote:

i was just oblvious to total mo awesomeness for 5k/10k golds for peking / rio / where then ???

it better have a proper tj run-up, because the tj board in doha looked thieved from local muni by inept rascals

it was a total fuuckin joke

doha needs proper tj runway

anyhows

i forgot mo ran 59'32 after awesome 8'03iwr

it finished him

Mo shoud never have run this unless

$$$

it has killed his speed

yes, this race has killed him

the age is too much

that kenyan 1/2M champ will hurt him too much over 10k

there are too many 5k predators

This doesn't have to be the case.

The temperature was just really high 88 or 89 fahrenheit.

This explains why they didn't go with the rabbit.

The splits where:

1000 was really fast.

3 seconds slower, the where also 3 seconds back at 2k.

2k splits was 5:11 + 3 = 5:14

3k was 7:38:08

Last 1000 was run in approx 2:24:1!

Rabbit at 800m was 5:43

Group was 5:46 so 32 for 1000-800

Last lap was 54.0 for gebrhiwet

From video: Gebrhiwet is at 5:45:7 at 800 tot go.

so last 800 is 1:52:4 if i am correct, would be

58.4 + 54.0!

400-800 lap is shown as 60.36, there where 2.5 sec back then

So that lap would be 58 flat.

Thay gives a last 800 for gebrhiwet of 1:52 - 1:52:5.

Great race for both farah and gebrihiwet!

This promises a great season and shows that Farah can be beaten if you take the fight to him.

Dewey_Runner wrote:

I love seeing Gebriwhet fired up like this, not too often that you see the Africans this emotional.

Who would have thought a whole continent could share a culture of emotionlessness.

webby wrote:

Dewey_Runner wrote:

I love seeing Gebriwhet fired up like this, not too often that you see the Africans this emotional.

Who would have thought a whole continent could share a culture of emotionlessness.

African culture is known for its lack of expression and exhuberance, much like the Carribean.

Thanks Ventolin , I just couldnt understand how Gebrhiwet blew by Mo and mo .couldnt muster a response esp if he was in a shape ..I guess the Lisbon Half Marathon messed up Mo's lethal speed ..

tony the tiger wrote:

Thanks Ventolin , I just couldn't understand how Gebrhiwet blew by Mo and mo .couldnt muster a response esp if he was in a shape ..I guess the Lisbon Half Marathon messed up Mo's lethal speed ..

Running a half marathon nearly 2 months ago doesn't "mess up" anyone's speed.

Mo ran a solid race, he just got caught by surprise by Hagos toward the end of the backstraight. He waited til the home straight to pass, rather than try to run 3 wide on the bend, but couldn't catch the Hagos.

Hagos ran a faster last lap iirc than Mo in the WC 5000 2 years ago, so it shouldn't be a real surprise that Mo couldn't pass him in the final 100m.

Hagos has run 12:47.53 .. so it's not like Mo got beat by some hack.

If anything, this race will reinforce for Mo the importance of his stand race tactic .. take the lead with 1k to go, and hold on to it.

There are at least 3 Ethiopians who can potentially run as fast or faster than Mo over the last lap; Dejen, Hagos and Muktar .. and quite possibly Muktar and Dejen have faster top end speed in a sprint finish than Mo does .. so he needs to be in front coming off the curve. Add Caleb to the list of guys who can challenge Mo over the last lap, and it's clear that Mo needs to be aggressive in holding on to his lead.