I think I can find that reference for you but not this night (it is late where I live!)
If we are thinking about the same predictions from a guy to TRP you are NOT completely right about what he predicted!
trackfangirl asked for a video from TOTAL RUNNING PRODUCTION where there were predictions for a young Jakob´s career best. The predictions were based on an article from some kind of expert.
Jakob Article:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nclUyhjVx_GHJ0Ce3X6tUs85Bfp-Es41gJKy-x-AJEAJakob Ingebrigtsen is one of the fastest junior distance runners i...
Jakob is a god :) . I remember years ago, he was like 16, and some track professional or something told the guy who runs the website total running productions, that based on his analysis, Jakob would have the potential of running 3:24 1500. He also said that the 5,000 would be his best event. I wish I could find that exact reference. Also in watching all of the Team Ingebrigtsen they were doing some tests on the treadmill and something about that predicted enormous innate capability. We also have to remember that this was a kid who ran 3:31 at 17. Just think of the normal arc of improvement from say 17 to 24 or 25 when a person is in their prime. His ultimate potential is something that we have rarely seen and to add that his confidence is off the scale. In him before he is through we may see something that we have never seen before!
Trackfangirl : See my posts below, especially my post on page 8 (first on this page) WITH A LINK TO A VIDEO FROM TRP.
Jakob is a god :) . I remember years ago, he was like 16, and some track professional or something told the guy who runs the website total running productions, that based on his analysis, Jakob would have the potential of running 3:24 1500. He also said that the 5,000 would be his best event. I wish I could find that exact reference. Also in watching all of the Team Ingebrigtsen they were doing some tests on the treadmill and something about that predicted enormous innate capability. We also have to remember that this was a kid who ran 3:31 at 17. Just think of the normal arc of improvement from say 17 to 24 or 25 when a person is in their prime. His ultimate potential is something that we have rarely seen and to add that his confidence is off the scale. In him before he is through we may see something that we have never seen before!
Trackfangirl : See my posts below, especially my post on page 8 (first on this page) WITH A LINK TO A VIDEO FROM TRP.
yes,hes a highly chemically enhanced god.i didnt believe his performances as a 17 year old,and i dont believe them now.teenagers cant run that fast without a lot of chemical help.they dont have the physiology to do it.if they could,east germans,russians,chinese and genuine 17 year old ethiopians and kenyans would have done it long before.also his win at all costs mentality screams doper to me.
everyone who is serious about running and competing should watch this 7 min interview. wow! not only is he the best in the world, he also knows how to explain why he is. impressive
yes,hes a highly chemically enhanced god.i didnt believe his performances as a 17 year old,and i dont believe them now.teenagers cant run that fast without a lot of chemical help.they dont have the physiology to do it.if they could,east germans,russians,chinese and genuine 17 year old ethiopians and kenyans would have done it long before.also his win at all costs mentality screams doper to me.
he started breaking records when he was 10. so you are saying he started chipping at 10? you are an idiot
everyone who is serious about running and competing should watch this 7 min interview. wow! not only is he the best in the world, he also knows how to explain why he is. impressive
That was an AWESOME interview. Forget the scoring tables or whatever else, 3:26 is the great white whale for him. Also, NOBODY is beating him this year 1500-5000. Everybody else can battle it out for 2nd. I just listened to this week’s coffee club podcast and Olli (who is great of course) was bragging about the OAC 1500 guys recent 400/200 session. Very impressive, but Jakob would be rolling his eyes.
In the words of Allen Iverson:
“Not a game. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last. Not the game.We talking about practice, man."
yes,hes a highly chemically enhanced god.i didnt believe his performances as a 17 year old,and i dont believe them now.teenagers cant run that fast without a lot of chemical help.they dont have the physiology to do it.if they could,east germans,russians,chinese and genuine 17 year old ethiopians and kenyans would have done it long before.also his win at all costs mentality screams doper to me.
Magnificent. It screams doper to you. And what does that tell us? Nothing about him. But something about you.
everyone who is serious about running and competing should watch this 7 min interview. wow! not only is he the best in the world, he also knows how to explain why he is. impressive
That was an AWESOME interview. Forget the scoring tables or whatever else, 3:26 is the great white whale for him. Also, NOBODY is beating him this year 1500-5000. Everybody else can battle it out for 2nd. I just listened to this week’s coffee club podcast and Olli (who is great of course) was bragging about the OAC 1500 guys recent 400/200 session. Very impressive, but Jakob would be rolling his eyes.
In the words of Allen Iverson:
“Not a game. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last. Not the game.We talking about practice, man."
I think this is a very important point. You shouldn't sit and brag about your session, after a while you will start to race your sessions to get anything to brag about.
That was an AWESOME interview. Forget the scoring tables or whatever else, 3:26 is the great white whale for him. Also, NOBODY is beating him this year 1500-5000. Everybody else can battle it out for 2nd. I just listened to this week’s coffee club podcast and Olli (who is great of course) was bragging about the OAC 1500 guys recent 400/200 session. Very impressive, but Jakob would be rolling his eyes.
In the words of Allen Iverson:
“Not a game. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last. Not the game.We talking about practice, man."
I think this is a very important point. You shouldn't sit and brag about your session, after a while you will start to race your sessions to get anything to brag about.
The other thing that’s loud and clear is that for Jakob, at least, the 1500 is THE most important distance event and all the others are secondary. He may be naturally better at the 5000 or even longer, but he considers himself a 1500 runner first and foremost and that’s really what matters to him. He would clearly trade lots of 5000 golds for 1500 gold and the 1500 wr. Honestly, I think this is true of all distance runners, if you could be a 1500 champ you would be, and if you can’t, then you figure out what else you can do.
The other thing that’s loud and clear is that for Jakob, at least, the 1500 is THE most important distance event and all the others are secondary. He may be naturally better at the 5000 or even longer, but he considers himself a 1500 runner first and foremost and that’s really what matters to him. He would clearly trade lots of 5000 golds for 1500 gold and the 1500 wr. Honestly, I think this is true of all distance runners, if you could be a 1500 champ you would be, and if you can’t, then you figure out what else you can do.
I do wonder if this is true in East Africa. It’s definitely true in Europe, the US and Oceania. In Kenya, they somewhat seem to be drawn to the 800 and roads (for monetary purposes on the latter, sure). Wanyonyi could certainly be an exceptional 1500m runner. As could Noah Kibet (3:36 debut). Korir is among many moved up from the 400 to the 8. Most of Kenya’s best 1500 guys were 800 guys (Tim, Kipsang, Manangoi) at younger ages who moved up after running 1:45. In Ethiopia, it is tough to say because of the Federation’s level of control.
The Jakob mindset is interesting because him winning in the 10,000/World XC would have more novelty than the 1500. He clearly thinks the 1500 means more.
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The other thing that’s loud and clear is that for Jakob, at least, the 1500 is THE most important distance event and all the others are secondary. He may be naturally better at the 5000 or even longer, but he considers himself a 1500 runner first and foremost and that’s really what matters to him. He would clearly trade lots of 5000 golds for 1500 gold and the 1500 wr. Honestly, I think this is true of all distance runners, if you could be a 1500 champ you would be, and if you can’t, then you figure out what else you can do.
I do wonder if this is true in East Africa. It’s definitely true in Europe, the US and Oceania. In Kenya, they somewhat seem to be drawn to the 800 and roads (for monetary purposes on the latter, sure). Wanyonyi could certainly be an exceptional 1500m runner. As could Noah Kibet (3:36 debut). Korir is among many moved up from the 400 to the 8. Most of Kenya’s best 1500 guys were 800 guys (Tim, Kipsang, Manangoi) at younger ages who moved up after running 1:45. In Ethiopia, it is tough to say because of the Federation’s level of control.
The Jakob mindset is interesting because him winning in the 10,000/World XC would have more novelty than the 1500. He clearly thinks the 1500 means more.
Yes, you may be right. From my USA perspective, the 1500 reins supreme, like being the quarterback for the 49ers or shortstop for the Yankees (forgive me, but you get the point). I recall an interview with Fisher from a year or two back where he said explicitly the reason he’s not a 1500 runner is because he’s not competitive, but if he was that’s what he’d do. You sort of see it with Teare now too. Yes, in east Africa you have absolute heroes like Bekele or Kipchoge where the 1500 was never the focus. I also remember a recent interview with Kipyegon where she was like 1500 gold and the wr are all fine, but she dreams of being a marathon champ like her hero, Eliud, even though you could argue Faith has easily surpassed EK in accomplishments.
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tells me im vastly wiser than you are,and a lot less naive.deal with it.
Yes, it tells you. It is your I, I, I. You are just expressing yourself and your feelings. And then you brand me as naiv. But so far not backing it with a single argument. That's not what wise men do.
everyone who is serious about running and competing should watch this 7 min interview. wow! not only is he the best in the world, he also knows how to explain why he is. impressive
Dude, everyone knows why he is. Lots of “hard work” and “gumption” *wink wink.
I do wonder if this is true in East Africa. It’s definitely true in Europe, the US and Oceania. In Kenya, they somewhat seem to be drawn to the 800 and roads (for monetary purposes on the latter, sure). Wanyonyi could certainly be an exceptional 1500m runner. As could Noah Kibet (3:36 debut). Korir is among many moved up from the 400 to the 8. Most of Kenya’s best 1500 guys were 800 guys (Tim, Kipsang, Manangoi) at younger ages who moved up after running 1:45. In Ethiopia, it is tough to say because of the Federation’s level of control.
The Jakob mindset is interesting because him winning in the 10,000/World XC would have more novelty than the 1500. He clearly thinks the 1500 means more.
Yes, you may be right. From my USA perspective, the 1500 reins supreme, like being the quarterback for the 49ers or shortstop for the Yankees (forgive me, but you get the point). I recall an interview with Fisher from a year or two back where he said explicitly the reason he’s not a 1500 runner is because he’s not competitive, but if he was that’s what he’d do. You sort of see it with Teare now too. Yes, in east Africa you have absolute heroes like Bekele or Kipchoge where the 1500 was never the focus. I also remember a recent interview with Kipyegon where she was like 1500 gold and the wr are all fine, but she dreams of being a marathon champ like her hero, Eliud, even though you could argue Faith has easily surpassed EK in accomplishments.
In America, the mentality is "Everyone would run the 100m if they could."
In Ethiopia, the mentality is "Everyone would run the marathon if they could."
