Elle Purrier - Are you F***ing kidding - 4:16.85 full mile FTW at Millrose. AR and #2 all time

There are different testing pools with corresponding levels of frequency of out of competition testing etc.

How fast can she run the football 40?

Looking at her instagram page, her boyfriend is really punching above his weight. Good for that guy though.

not epo wrote:

seen so often before wrote:

Prime example of how well epo works. Not even out of breath when she finished, looks like she has changed to the dark side after Doha.

That is blatantly wrong. I had the privilege of training with Elle this summer for a brief period of time and have met her on multiple occasions along with her coach. They are very against the idea of epo and are devoted to a clean sport. What has this world come to where we doubt each and every performance.

Elle’s mom was in the same grade as my older sister and the two still correspond (we’re talking a small town in Vermont). It would be shocking to think of her as taking EPO.

And I think it’s very disrespectful and disgusting to throw out the accusation with zero evidence.

Truly the dopers have ruined the sport of this is how almost-certainly non-dopers are treated.

instastalk wrote:

Looking at her instagram page, her boyfriend is really punching above his weight. Good for that guy though.

I think he's her fiance, in fact! He looks like the wholesome homegrown type and IMO they're cute AF together. Genuine New England farm kids.

I've spent ~25 years living in 4 different states in New England, including VT and NH, so I feel qualified in making this judgment.

Anyway, freaking awesome for Elle. I'm so excited for the women's 1500 in this oly year.

you seem certain wrote:

YMMV wrote:

Clean WR?

She was calm as could be the final laps. Insane composure while Koko was writhing.

What makes you so sure she is clean?

That's not fair!

What has she done to not earn the perception of cleanliness.

TrackCoach wrote:

you seem certain wrote:

What makes you so sure she is clean?

That's not fair!

What has she done to not earn the perception of cleanliness.

She has run stupidly fast. Either anyone on that level is suspicious or no one is. The biased cherry picking here is quite disgusting. (I'm an "innocent until proven guilty" guy, btw.)

She's a heel striker. Will never get anywhere with that ;-)

Elle: a few steps from the finish, clock reads 4:14.

Commentator: the meet record 4:19 might be in danger!!

YMMV wrote:

You know who must be REALLY be psyched right now? NB teammate Jenny Simpson....the last women to beat her, with a 4:17 at 5th Ave. Jenny ran an easy win in 8:51 on a slow track today.

Does Purrier train with Simpson? If so, that does create some suspicion. Wasn't Simpson the one who criticized the NOP athletes for shady connections, then word got out that she is a patient of Dr. Brown? Not a good look for the NB Boston group if Simpson is a part of it. I am not sure if she is though.

Purrier joined the New Balance Boston team in 2018 after graduating from UNH. Her team has been doing altitude training this winter up in Flagstaff.

Simpson has been with New Balance since leaving Colorado in 2010. She is still in Boulder, training under her college coach Mark Wetmore.

Elle Purrier is going full Uceny on us... suddenly a a contender out of nowhere. I was super impressed by her 5th Avenue Mile performance, but this is the real deal. No Vaporflys, no downhill road course, no doubts. She even seems to have a kick. It sucks that she will need to run like 3:47 or so to win gold. It’s all about those retroactive medals nowadays! 7th place in 2020, silver medal after the doping busts.

The Vermonster wrote:

Elle has just scratched the surface with this race.

I loved all aspects of your post but this.

No. She's pretty much dug deep in the surface. There is a limit to what people can run and unless you think it's 3:50, she's unlikely to run much faster. Remember, people like Wheating, Gregson, etc ran huge pbs to hit 3:30 in the men's 1500 and never came close to it again. You don't PR by a ton to run 330 and then PR by a ton again and run 325.

But given her background, given her performance at 5th avenue, I do think she'll be able to replicate this again but people don't continue to PR and PR and PR once they reach an elite level of training.

Look at Jenny Simpson. She ran 3:59.9 in 2009 but didn't break 4:00 again until 2014 (although she did win a world title in the interim). Simpson's PR isn't way faster than 3:59 - it's 3:57.22.

Drunk LetsRun wrote:

YMMV wrote:

You know who must be REALLY be psyched right now? NB teammate Jenny Simpson....the last women to beat her, with a 4:17 at 5th Ave. Jenny ran an easy win in 8:51 on a slow track today.

Does Purrier train with Simpson? If so, that does create some suspicion. Wasn't Simpson the one who criticized the NOP athletes for shady connections, then word got out that she is a patient of Dr. Brown? Not a good look for the NB Boston group if Simpson is a part of it. I am not sure if she is though.

You trolls are really running weak game on this thread. -1/10

jhlkjhlkjhjlkhkl wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Reminded me of Jenny Simpson breaking 4. Is Purrier essentially training alone at UNH with her college coach and doing all this? The 1500 women’s is too loaded though.

No she switched coaches almost immediately after graduation and has been training with New Balance Boston with Mark Coogan since then. Just did a training camp in Flagstaff I think? from social media. Her college coach has not been involved in almost 2 years, she's 10 seconds faster since the coaching change

Jeez what an ignorant post. Mark has done a great job with Ellie and she was a badass in that race. Also, Hop (at UNH) did a fantastic job with her and is one of the most underrated coaches in the NCAA

YMMV wrote:

Clean WR?

She was calm as could be the final laps. Insane composure while Koko was writhing.

How do you know she is clean? I've never heard of her and suddenly she is running Genzebe times. The first thing I thought is she has gone, "Everyone else is doping, I want my piece of glory."

YMMV wrote:

UltraDude wrote:

Purrier isn’t in the RTP. Not saying that proves she’s dirty, but she isn’t subject to the strictest testing around.

https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/know-the-process/registered-testing-pool?athleteName=Purrier+&country=&sex=&discipline=

After that performance she will be starting on Monday.

And how do you know this? 4:02/14:58 doesn't get you tested?[/quote]

Can someone tell please tell me how many times USADA tested her last year? I'm getting nothing.

Subway Surfers wrote:

YMMV wrote:

After that performance she will be starting on Monday.

And how do you know this? 4:02/14:58 doesn't get you tested?

Can someone please tell me how many times USADA tested her last year? I'm getting nothing.[/quote]

rojo wrote:

There is a limit to what people can run

#nohumanislimited