You can't "take one other person's place up front" in a marathon
It isn't like there's a limit on places up front, or anywhere else.
Hands down the weirdest post I have seen in awhile.
You must be new here.😂
But yes it’s bizarre and nonsensical.
The original poster explicitly stated, "If I run the first half all out, I would either be in the lead or at least the lead pack." And yes, if you are "in the lead," which the poster clearly distinguished from the lesser status of being in "the lead pack," then there's at least one other person whose "place up front" is, in fact, being taken by you. And even if you are merely in the "lead pack," you are taking away at least some of the attention more appropriately placed on actual competitors in the race. Although I may not have chosen the term "taking another person's place (which was "dont's" locution), it's a perfectly understandable way of describing the original poster's intent to shift attention away from actual competitors by fraudulently pretending to be a competitor.
Regardless of whether that strikes you as bizarre, it is not nonsensical.
Yes, he was another one I thought of in this thread. He was an out-of-shape stoner who had no legitimate reason for shuffling and walking on the trials course for close to four hours. Of course, kids inhabiting these message boards loved his attention-grabbing performance and his effort to try to get beer included at the fluids station, and even held him up as a hero rather than a pathetic drug abuser who had, at the very least, given up on what had been a promising running career.
This might not be popular with the kids but you're taking the place of someone who puts blood, sweat and tears into racing the best they can. It would be disrespectful of the race, the other runners and most of all the one whose place you're taking.
And you could tell your grandkids that you once ran the Olympic Trials but knew you weren't going to win so behaved like a d1ck. Not sure that's the life lesson and legacy you want to look back on.
And before anyone says 1:04:2X is not on pace for Olympic Standard, I doubt anyone runs sub 2:08:10 during a noon start in Orlando. Guys are racing a fall marathon for the standard. This will be a tactical sit and kick race.
Are you a 64 minute HM in perfect conditions or in 80 degrees? There is a major difference. If it is ideal conditions Panning and Mantz will be out in 63 flat.
Well if Mantz and Rupp go out in 63, then I obviously have no shot. I think my ability to lead the race improves the worse the conditions are because nobody is going to want to lead in that. Look at what happened to Kipchoge at Boston. He led and then crumbled. Look at every distance race at Worlds except women’s 1500–anyone leading halfway through loses.
I miss the days of the clowns dashing to the first mile post in Boston and other races. Do it. Hang as long as you can. I’m skeptical that you can lead at the halfway mark. But you won’t know if you don’t try
The original poster explicitly stated, "If I run the first half all out, I would either be in the lead or at least the lead pack." And yes, if you are "in the lead," which the poster clearly distinguished from the lesser status of being in "the lead pack," then there's at least one other person whose "place up front" is, in fact, being taken by you. And even if you are merely in the "lead pack," you are taking away at least some of the attention more appropriately placed on actual competitors in the race. Although I may not have chosen the term "taking another person's place (which was "dont's" locution), it's a perfectly understandable way of describing the original poster's intent to shift attention away from actual competitors by fraudulently pretending to be a competitor.
Regardless of whether that strikes you as bizarre, it is not nonsensical.
If someone wants to run in front of me and let me draft, I'm not going to moan about it. OP will be helping everyone by going out at suicide pace.
The original poster explicitly stated, "If I run the first half all out, I would either be in the lead or at least the lead pack." And yes, if you are "in the lead," which the poster clearly distinguished from the lesser status of being in "the lead pack," then there's at least one other person whose "place up front" is, in fact, being taken by you. And even if you are merely in the "lead pack," you are taking away at least some of the attention more appropriately placed on actual competitors in the race. Although I may not have chosen the term "taking another person's place (which was "dont's" locution), it's a perfectly understandable way of describing the original poster's intent to shift attention away from actual competitors by fraudulently pretending to be a competitor.
Regardless of whether that strikes you as bizarre, it is not nonsensical.
If someone wants to run in front of me and let me draft, I'm not going to moan about it. OP will be helping everyone by going out at suicide pace.
With a 2:16 PR, he will be invisible to the top runners.
Are you a 64 minute HM in perfect conditions or in 80 degrees? There is a major difference. If it is ideal conditions Panning and Mantz will be out in 63 flat.
While the race is in florida, february means at noon it could be anywhere from the 50s to low 80s. If the weather is good, if a couple guys go out in 63, there may be a big pack around that pace because many won't want to take the chance these guys will come back. For op to lead at half in an ideal race, he may need to be in the 62s. I think then people will let him go thinking an unknown won't run 205.
I miss the days of the clowns dashing to the first mile post in Boston and other races.
I don't miss those clowns at all. They posed a big threat to serious contenders, especially at or near the starting line, when they could bump or trip other runners. Real elite marathoners tend to be much more respectful. They know that one of the most important parts of the race is the start, when everyone should be safe and orderly. The people who wanted to get and stay on television as long as possible were the worst. No serious runner wanted those people there, and they were a very large part of the reason that wave starts took over road racing.
The problem is you are probably not fast enough to run half in say 64min, if that is going to be the pace. What is your HM time
My half marathon PR (set before my 2:16) is a better PR than my full. Let’s just say I’m confident I could run 1:04:20-1:04:30
As mentioned, you are not even a qualifier, you are a troll. You'd never put your pr for a half down on thread because you are a phony. What would it matter if anyone knew who you were, who cares? I'd bet you haven't broken 2:50 for a marathon and again, you are a troll for views for the site, nothing else. Congrats, you got many views and some from prominent posters on these boards which really surprises me.
This might not be popular with the kids but you're taking the place of someone who puts blood, sweat and tears into racing the best they can. It would be disrespectful of the race, the other runners and most of all the one whose place you're taking.
And you could tell your grandkids that you once ran the Olympic Trials but knew you weren't going to win so behaved like a d1ck. Not sure that's the life lesson and legacy you want to look back on.
You mad because you slow?
Actually, his attitude is much more prevalent among faster and more experienced runners, and obviously far less so among many of the vocal denizens of letsrun.
Well if Mantz and Rupp go out in 63, then I obviously have no shot. I think my ability to lead the race improves the worse the conditions are because nobody is going to want to lead in that. Look at what happened to Kipchoge at Boston. He led and then crumbled. Look at every distance race at Worlds except women’s 1500–anyone leading halfway through loses.
Kipchoge didn't lead and then crumble. He was one of a few people just steps in front of a pack of runners. YOU definitely haven't broken 3 hours with logic like that. Troll.
Are you a 64 minute HM in perfect conditions or in 80 degrees? There is a major difference. If it is ideal conditions Panning and Mantz will be out in 63 flat.
While the race is in florida, february means at noon it could be anywhere from the 50s to low 80s. If the weather is good, if a couple guys go out in 63, there may be a big pack around that pace because many won't want to take the chance these guys will come back. For op to lead at half in an ideal race, he may need to be in the 62s. I think then people will let him go thinking an unknown won't run 205.
They’ll know his level and won’t follow him at all. Just looking at his physique and stride will probably be enough. You act as if it’s greyhounds chasing a mechanical rabbit.