JAKOB 3:30

Coevett wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

I said Filip is the best Ingerbrigsten right now. He must be so pissed off to run 3:30.01!

Still an astounding run by Jakob at 17 years old. I do wonder how people can doubt a 17 year old Kenyan running 3:31 now when Jakob has just shown it's possible.

I just hope this boy doesn't burn out before he's 20.

Probably because of well-documented, proven, and chronic age cheating and doping in Kenya.

You don't even have a basic grasp of logic.

Show us your proof, then.

Thing is Jakob will develop like a normal 17 yr old and improve the next few years, unlike any of the "17" yr old east Africans.

Already had been improving the last couple of years. Having a nice jump this year due to a nice 6 inch growth spurt.

If Jakob improves next year to 3:28 low I'm getting a Jakob MF Ingebrigtsen tattoo.

I call BS wrote:

Dril wrote:

There is known rampant PED use by other Norwegian endurance athletes AND they have a nationalized training system. There is no doubt the brothers are on 2x the asthma juice medicine as Galen rupp. Doped to the gils by national doctors.

What your post epitomises is the double standard and racism when it comes to doping suspicion in track and field.

There have been 6 doping-cases related to Norwegian endurance athletes in the last 25 years, across all sports. Is that what you call rampant?

Yes, especially when its state sponsored:

"Norwegian newspaper VG reported that 42 out of 61 awards earned by the Norwegians since the 1992 Albertville Olympics went to skiers who had been allowed to use asthma drugs."

Those poor Norwegian asthmatics :(

Dril wrote:

I call BS wrote:

There have been 6 doping-cases related to Norwegian endurance athletes in the last 25 years, across all sports. Is that what you call rampant?

Yes, especially when its state sponsored:

"Norwegian newspaper VG reported that 42 out of 61 awards earned by the Norwegians since the 1992 Albertville Olympics went to skiers who had been allowed to use asthma drugs."

Those poor Norwegian asthmatics :(

poor guy. What effect does asthma medication have vs the EPO in use heavily in Africa? More imprortantly, what does this have to do with Norwegian track? Should we compare all of the 1500 meter to marathon athletes busted for doping from Africa vs Norway? I'll start: Kiprop.

Dril wrote:

I call BS wrote:

There have been 6 doping-cases related to Norwegian endurance athletes in the last 25 years, across all sports. Is that what you call rampant?

Yes, especially when its state sponsored:

"Norwegian newspaper VG reported that 42 out of 61 awards earned by the Norwegians since the 1992 Albertville Olympics went to skiers who had been allowed to use asthma drugs."

Those poor Norwegian asthmatics :(

So you know more than WADA about PEDs, and that allows you to say that anyone on astma medication are getting performance benefits? Where did you get your PhD?

Stop talking shít when you don't know shít.

Coevett wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

I said Filip is the best Ingerbrigsten right now. He must be so pissed off to run 3:30.01!

Still an astounding run by Jakob at 17 years old. I do wonder how people can doubt a 17 year old Kenyan running 3:31 now when Jakob has just shown it's possible.

I just hope this boy doesn't burn out before he's 20.

Probably because of well-documented, proven, and chronic age cheating and doping in Kenya.

You don't even have a basic grasp of logic.

So, how logic works, is you generally use one truthful observation to draw parallels to another situation and therefore create conclusions, proving the second situation to be true based upon the truthfulness of the former.

So the truthful observation is that we have one boy who is 17 running 3:31. Therefore is is proven possible to run 3:31 at 17 years old. It's not possible at say 5 years old, but it has been proven possible at 17.

Then we take that truthful observation and conclude that therefore it must be possible for other 17 year olds to run 3:31, some of them black and some of them Kenyan.

That's what logic is. Your ideas are more like projections of feelings. 'All Kenyans are age cheats because some are' is not a logical conclusion.

Did you study maths at all? I feel you did not.

I call BS wrote:

Dril wrote:

Yes, especially when its state sponsored:

"Norwegian newspaper VG reported that 42 out of 61 awards earned by the Norwegians since the 1992 Albertville Olympics went to skiers who had been allowed to use asthma drugs."

Those poor Norwegian asthmatics :(

So you know more than WADA about PEDs, and that allows you to say that anyone on astma medication are getting performance benefits? Where did you get your PhD?

Stop talking shít when you don't know shít.

I spent 30 years in Big Pharma. I am pretty sure I can read a clinical study better than you.

So many on here fail to understand that studies, especially those on products that have been around for many years, are done purely for registration and marketing purposes.

When yo all say 'there's no benefit" it means that the clinical benefits didn't match the target for the study. In Sal's case a small study with normal subjects showed an improvement in cardiac output of 6.7%. Insignificant in the study, but when a team claims 'marginal gains' its quite a lot. A 6.7% increase in cardiac output in an elite athlete may be enough to make the final or win a medal.

Converts to 3:48 for the mile.

Dril wrote:

I call BS wrote:

There have been 6 doping-cases related to Norwegian endurance athletes in the last 25 years, across all sports. Is that what you call rampant?

Yes, especially when its state sponsored:

"Norwegian newspaper VG reported that 42 out of 61 awards earned by the Norwegians since the 1992 Albertville Olympics went to skiers who had been allowed to use asthma drugs."

Those poor Norwegian asthmatics :(

Does it occur to you that perhaps cross country skiing for hours a day in freezing temperatures, often since pre-puberty, might end up producing a greater incidence of asthma like symptoms?

Tim literally saw the Tokyo 2020 gold medal vanishing at that moment.

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You’re certain that literally is the right word?

I call BS wrote:

Stop talking shít when you don't know shít.

íííí???

Coevett, did you forget to change your keyboard from Czech to English again?

;D

Coevett wrote:

Dril wrote:

Yes, especially when its state sponsored:

"Norwegian newspaper VG reported that 42 out of 61 awards earned by the Norwegians since the 1992 Albertville Olympics went to skiers who had been allowed to use asthma drugs."

Those poor Norwegian asthmatics :(

Does it occur to you that perhaps cross country skiing for hours a day in freezing temperatures, often since pre-puberty, might end up producing a greater incidence of asthma like symptoms?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0954611196902061

Doping. Apologist.

I've said it before, you are the only doping apologist here. I've never made excuses for people actually CAUGHT doing drugs but you do daily. If they are European.

Heres my predicted venn diagram for people slobbering over Jacob's 4th place vs. people who criticize Centro for not being able to run fast despite all the medals:

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ex-runner wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Does it occur to you that perhaps cross country skiing for hours a day in freezing temperatures, often since pre-puberty, might end up producing a greater incidence of asthma like symptoms?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0954611196902061

Doping. Apologist.

I've said it before, you are the only doping apologist here. I've never made excuses for people actually CAUGHT doing drugs but you do daily. If they are European.

Amen. It's a small country the size of greater Detroit and they have had a fair number of athletes busted for doping, not counting the abuse of asthma medicines. Rupp and Alsal abused asthma medication and the anti-ruppers have been drowning on about that for over a decade. The entire national team of norway is abusing tues and there's mostly excuses here. They clearly operate in the moral gray area in norway. They have a culture of cheating. On top of that they are producing outlier performances. Where there's smoke there's fire. Don't be so naive. Oh wait, we can because they are white.

#CLEANSPORT

There are an endless number of articles like this. It must be part of a big Illuminati conspiracy to take down Norwegian athletes. Those kids are clean!

Dril wrote:

https://www.si.com/si-wire/2014/01/17/norwegian-doping-official-accuses-athletes-of-doping

There are an endless number of articles like this. It must be part of a big Illuminati conspiracy to take down Norwegian athletes. Those kids are clean!

Lol. Watching you racists squirm is so fun to watch. Gonna love the 10 years!

He grew by centimeters. Not inches.

ex-runner wrote:

xcswwere wrote:

3:31.18. Filip ran 3:30.01 - so Henrik is now the slowest Ingebritsen

I said Filip is the best Ingerbrigsten right now. He must be so pissed off to run 3:30.01!

Still an astounding run by Jakob at 17 years old. I do wonder how people can doubt a 17 year old Kenyan running 3:31 now when Jakob has just shown it's possible.

I just hope this boy doesn't burn out before he's 20.

No one doubts that a Kenyan can run 3:31 on the Monaco trampoline, the issue is whether they are really 17 and if they have ever been tested and if their manager is a Rosa.