john utah wrote:
All He Does Is Win wrote:What a load of crap. People have babies while travelling, so a kid that has spent a few days in a country can only compete for that country despite growing up and training elsewhere.
Ok, I'm fine with that. Make it even more strict. You parents must be citizens as well. And you can't live/train outside of your own country for any kind of extended period.
What if your parents were born in different countries?
Or is that seen as disgusting, in your mind?
You know a country is in trouble when they start counting relays as some kind of system success.
800ftw. wrote:
john utah wrote:Ok, I'm fine with that. Make it even more strict. You parents must be citizens as well. And you can't live/train outside of your own country for any kind of extended period.
What if your parents were born in different countries?
Or is that seen as disgusting, in your mind?
They don't have to be born in the USA, their child does. They just need to be citizens at the time of birth.
john utah wrote:
800ftw. wrote:What if your parents were born in different countries?
Or is that seen as disgusting, in your mind?
They don't have to be born in the USA, their child does. They just need to be citizens at the time of birth.
Don't dodge the question, John.
What if one parent is a nice white American
girl, and the other is a big Black Nigerian man - not a US citizen.
Does that hurt your head? Is the child not allowed to compete for either?
Come on John, answer the question for me
800ftw. wrote:
john utah wrote:They don't have to be born in the USA, their child does. They just need to be citizens at the time of birth.
Don't dodge the question, John.
What if one parent is a nice white American
girl, and the other is a big Black Nigerian man - not a US citizen.
Does that hurt your head? Is the child not allowed to compete for either?
What am I missing? Here are my qualifications:
Both parents must be citizens of the USA, not one, but both. They don't have to be born in the USA, just citizens at the time of their child's birth. Their child would be eligible if he remains in the USA and trains in the USA.
Yes, in your scenario the kid would be ineligible. He can run unaffiliated. Tough s#it for the kid.
John utah wrote:
800ftw. wrote:Don't dodge the question, John.
What if one parent is a nice white American
girl, and the other is a big Black Nigerian man - not a US citizen.
Does that hurt your head? Is the child not allowed to compete for either?
What am I missing? Here are my qualifications:
Both parents must be citizens of the USA, not one, but both. They don't have to be born in the USA, just citizens at the time of their child's birth. Their child would be eligible if he remains in the USA and trains in the USA.
Yes, in your scenario the kid would be ineligible. He can run unaffiliated. Tough s#it for the kid.
Haha! Ineligible!
You are truly hilarious. Your fanciful land where every baby is born into a nuclear family is boring, out of touch and will die along with your generation. Thank fck
John utah wrote:
800ftw. wrote:Don't dodge the question, John.
What if one parent is a nice white American
girl, and the other is a big Black Nigerian man - not a US citizen.
Does that hurt your head? Is the child not allowed to compete for either?
What am I missing? Here are my qualifications:
Both parents must be citizens of the USA, not one, but both. They don't have to be born in the USA, just citizens at the time of their child's birth. Their child would be eligible if he remains in the USA and trains in the USA.
Yes, in your scenario the kid would be ineligible. He can run unaffiliated. Tough s#it for the kid.
Run unaffiliated? Where? His local track meets?
So you have the next mile world record holder born in your State to a white American born woman, but because the kids father isn't from America you think the kid shouldn't be allowed to run for USA and bring home medals?
It's crazy how you think you have some inherent entitlement to the country that you live in. You don't own America. You can't decide who is American and who isn't.
Your attitude alone tells me that you are not made of the same stuff that original inhabitants of the USA were.
And a completely unrelated question... But where were you born, John Utah? What nationality were your parents at the time?
800ftw. wrote:
John utah wrote:What am I missing? Here are my qualifications:
Both parents must be citizens of the USA, not one, but both. They don't have to be born in the USA, just citizens at the time of their child's birth. Their child would be eligible if he remains in the USA and trains in the USA.
Yes, in your scenario the kid would be ineligible. He can run unaffiliated. Tough s#it for the kid.
Haha! Ineligible!
You are truly hilarious. Your fanciful land where every baby is born into a nuclear family is boring, out of touch and will die along with your generation. Thank fck
For your type of person, uneducated ower class types, it's always been that way, brah. Same as it ever was.
What if we had the most qualified person available to be the president of the USA. Brilliant, experienced and competent in every way. Yet he was not a natural born citizen. Ineligible.
Utah gaga wrote:
John utah wrote:What am I missing? Here are my qualifications:
Both parents must be citizens of the USA, not one, but both. They don't have to be born in the USA, just citizens at the time of their child's birth. Their child would be eligible if he remains in the USA and trains in the USA.
Yes, in your scenario the kid would be ineligible. He can run unaffiliated. Tough s#it for the kid.
Run unaffiliated? Where? His local track meets?
So you have the next mile world record holder born in your State to a white American born woman, but because the kids father isn't from America you think the kid shouldn't be allowed to run for USA and bring home medals?
It's crazy how you think you have some inherent entitlement to the country that you live in. You don't own America. You can't decide who is American and who isn't.
Your attitude alone tells me that you are not made of the same stuff that original inhabitants of the USA were.
Are you mentally challenged? We are discussing our opinions on what the rules should be in order to represent one's country in international competition. And your response is to tell me that "I don't own America"? Wow!
John utah wrote:
800ftw. wrote:Haha! Ineligible!
You are truly hilarious. Your fanciful land where every baby is born into a nuclear family is boring, out of touch and will die along with your generation. Thank fck
For your type of person, uneducated ower class types, it's always been that way, brah. Same as it ever was.
Your failure to use English here does not surprise me.
800ftw. wrote:
John utah wrote:For your type of person, uneducated ower class types, it's always been that way, brah. Same as it ever was.
Your failure to use English here does not surprise me.
But the geometry is wonderful.
800ftw. wrote:
John utah wrote:For your type of person, uneducated ower class types, it's always been that way, brah. Same as it ever was.
Your failure to use English here does not surprise me.
You feel vindicated by my typo? Ha!
John utah wrote:
What if we had the most qualified person available to be the president of the USA. Brilliant, experienced and competent in every way. Yet he was not a natural born citizen. Ineligible.
Someone does not require both their parents to be born in the USA to become president idiot.
What happens two black African couples both move to America. They have children in the USA. Then those children grow up and have a baby in the USA.
The kid is entirely non-white and African in every sense of his heritage, but is entirely an American citizen, as much as you are.
Can they run for your beloved and exclusive team USA?
Utah gaga wrote:
John utah wrote:What if we had the most qualified person available to be the president of the USA. Brilliant, experienced and competent in every way. Yet he was not a natural born citizen. Ineligible.
Someone does not require both their parents to be born in the USA to become president idiot.
Where did I say it was? Try reading before embarrassing yourself. You also have to be 35 years old to be president. I never said or implied that the presidential rules and athletic eligibility rules should be the same. I'm pointing out that rules are in place for something far more important than athletics. Rules that could potentially eliminate the best candidate for the job, which is a direct response to the post about the potential "tragedy" of having our best runner ineligible due to rules.
Sorry I had to spell it out for you. Didn't reslize you struggled so mightily with thoughts, words, ideas, etc.
John utah wrote:
Utah gaga wrote:Someone does not require both their parents to be born in the USA to become president idiot.
Where did I say it was? Try reading before embarrassing yourself. You also have to be 35 years old to be president. I never said or implied that the presidential rules and athletic eligibility rules should be the same. I'm pointing out that rules are in place for something far more important than athletics. Rules that could potentially eliminate the best candidate for the job, which is a direct response to the post about the potential "tragedy" of having our best runner ineligible due to rules.
Sorry I had to spell it out for you. Didn't reslize you struggled so mightily with thoughts, words, ideas, etc.
You think 'the rules' should be more strict to join the US running team than to be President?
I see now that your viewpoints are bizare and mental, but explain why someone who was born in the USA to a parent born in the USA should not run for the US team?
Why should we exclude people perfect for the job because of silly made up rules about who you think is American? It doesn't help anything. It's purely emotional rubbish.
You think you are American, you feel entitled, but you are no more American than any immigrant that moves to the USA and becomes naturalised.