She does not even sound like she buys the cross training explanation.
I don’t see how you came up with that at all?
I gather from her press conference antics that she knew ahead of time someone would ask the question again (and maybe she is a little perturbed when it seems to her people don’t want to believe it anyway.)
I've been doing Parker Valby Training™ since November. Part of my motivation was to spite those who say she's lying about her training.
The biggest thing I've noticed is the major reduction of fatigue when running. I didn't realize how much jogging around on easy days was banging up my joints. I no longer have any sort of achiness in my joints or muscles. I'm able to do long, hard running workouts and surprise myself with my pace and consistency every time.
But are you using the Arc Trainer, specifically?? I think that is a key piece which people are neglecting the importance of. And treadmill running is not, per se, “cross-training.”
I've been doing Parker Valby Training™ since November. Part of my motivation was to spite those who say she's lying about her training.
The biggest thing I've noticed is the major reduction of fatigue when running. I didn't realize how much jogging around on easy days was banging up my joints. I no longer have any sort of achiness in my joints or muscles. I'm able to do long, hard running workouts and surprise myself with my pace and consistency every time.
But are you using the Arc Trainer, specifically?? I think that is a key piece which people are neglecting the importance of. And treadmill running is not, per se, “cross-training.”
That said, it may be the case that one’s particular biomechanics determine benefits obtained from one cross-training modality over another.
If they are circular that's a result of cupping therapy.
I came to sift through this thread because I have the same question. What was going on with all that bruising on her thighs? They weren't circular like any cupping marks I've ever seen. The natural assumption would be that they're marks from some kind of muscle treatment, but I've never seen bruises like that on an athlete from therapeutic causes before.
Besides increasing metabolism for weight loss, one online source said a side effect of excess Kombucha consumption could be “lactic acidosis”. Maybe she has improved lactate buffering as a result?? Regardless, she probably should consider drinking it with a straw to protect her teeth from long-term damage.
But are you using the Arc Trainer, specifically?? I think that is a key piece which people are neglecting the importance of. And treadmill running is not, per se, “cross-training.”
That said, it may be the case that one’s particular biomechanics determine benefits obtained from one cross-training modality over another.
I don’t consider treadmill running cross-training unless it’s an Alter-G maybe, which I don’t have access to. Usually I do the stationary bike or elliptical, but will also do the Arc Trainer if I have access to it. I do 15 minutes per running mile, so usually 60-90 minutes (replace 4-6 mile easy runs). And they are hard interval type workouts with all the sweat on the floor. I have a bike at my house and elliptical at the gym closest to me so those usually win vs the Arc Trainer. I’m not claiming to do everything exactly like her. After all, I’m not even close to her level, but I didn’t have anything to lose by adapting it to my own training and seeing what happened. I do believe I’d see even more improvement if I was using an Arc Trainer for all cross-training and adding in swimming, but I work with what I have and the time I have (excuses, but I do have baby twins).
I was coming back from childbirth, so my mileage was already low. I had the experience of years of traditional training (50-80 mpw) so knew how far that got me in the past (usually eventually injured). I got up to barely 30 mpw of traditional training and some sort of pain would pop up, so I’d take up to a week off, start again and it comes back. I figured I was losing more fitness with this back and forth style of running 6 days a week for a while, taking a week or two off because some ache or pain, repeat than if I were to run 3 days (sometimes 4) and cross-train the rest.
I don’t know if I will continue this forever, especially when I get back to marathon training, but it works for now and I can take what works from the experience and adjust. One of the other benefits I’ve noticed is that I’m no longer obsessed about how many mpw I’m running.
I do believe I’d see even more improvement if I was using an Arc Trainer for all cross-training and adding in swimming,
Why so? Because of specific leg muscle development? Online videos show both people either using handles, or standing upright without using the handles. I think the latter could possibly improve neuromuscular balance.
Uhh, here’s a different take. I don’t think Roe was even thinking straight. Her legs felt like they were cement; she had just been beaten by 23 sec over the final mile, barely hanging on for 2nd place.
Omg, at 2:52 of the video she is smiling and giving the thumbs up to her team mate who just had a great long jump.
Valby's post race interviews are terrific. She said her head is like a ping pong ball during the race, not paying attention to splits but everything else. She gave the thumbs up because her teammate had just taken the lead at 6.71. If you listen to the video as Valby is rounding the prior turn you can hear the track announcer raving about the 6.71.
Valby used the lap traffic to get faster. That's what stood out to me. The first lapped woman moved out to lane 2 so Valby and Roe could pass to the inside. Everyone else remained on the rail. I could tell Valby was running a fast final split because she seemed to take every soon to be lapped runner as a personal challenge.
But why does someone for whom the elliptical is so much hard work and is drenched with sweat show none of the same on the track?
Are you processing their words at all? They said that they sweat much more on the elliptical than on an indoor track. It’s the same for me. And the Arc Trainer is really as intense as you make it.
Doing 80 minutes on an arc trainer (still, i.e. no “wind” generated) in a stuffy 70 degree gym results in more sweating than a 15 minute race at 12mph on an indoor track in Boston…why is this strange to you?
Anyway, came back to this thread just to mention how as she’s approaching the 1600m point she smiles and gives two thumbs up to her teammate who just took the lead in the LJ competition. I don’t think it’s surprising she’d be feeling fresh at that point, but it does show a ton of relaxation and confidence.
Oh, so it's training in a "stuffy gym" that causes her to sweat, not racing at her full capacity on a track in the summertime or cross-country? What kind of second rate gym facility that has no air-conditioning is that?
If training on an elliptical is so hard I wonder why it isn't the norm for top athletes. (I guess it would be hard if you can only run outdoors two days a week). Do Ingebrigtsen, Kerr and Kipyegon (and every second Kenyan distance runner) train that way? They must be taking it easy compared to Valby. But, strangely enough, they are able to put the miles in she can't, because she apparently gets injured if she does. Amazing how she succeeds on a formula that isn't employed or advocated for the best athletes but only the injury-prone.
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Are you processing their words at all? They said that they sweat much more on the elliptical than on an indoor track. It’s the same for me. And the Arc Trainer is really as intense as you make it.
Doing 80 minutes on an arc trainer (still, i.e. no “wind” generated) in a stuffy 70 degree gym results in more sweating than a 15 minute race at 12mph on an indoor track in Boston…why is this strange to you?
Anyway, came back to this thread just to mention how as she’s approaching the 1600m point she smiles and gives two thumbs up to her teammate who just took the lead in the LJ competition. I don’t think it’s surprising she’d be feeling fresh at that point, but it does show a ton of relaxation and confidence.
Oh, so it's training in a "stuffy gym" that causes her to sweat, not racing at her full capacity on a track in the summertime or cross-country? What kind of second rate gym facility that has no air-conditioning is that?
If training on an elliptical is so hard I wonder why it isn't the norm for top athletes. (I guess it would be hard if you can only run outdoors two days a week). Do Ingebrigtsen, Kerr and Kipyegon (and every second Kenyan distance runner) train that way? They must be taking it easy compared to Valby. But, strangely enough, they are able to put the miles in she can't, because she apparently gets injured if she does. Amazing how she succeeds on a formula that isn't employed or advocated for the best athletes but only the injury-prone.
You should be quiet on this subject. Until a few months ago you thought "cross-training" meant running on a treadmill.
Oh, so it's training in a "stuffy gym" that causes her to sweat, not racing at her full capacity on a track in the summertime or cross-country? What kind of second rate gym facility that has no air-conditioning is that?
If training on an elliptical is so hard I wonder why it isn't the norm for top athletes. (I guess it would be hard if you can only run outdoors two days a week). Do Ingebrigtsen, Kerr and Kipyegon (and every second Kenyan distance runner) train that way? They must be taking it easy compared to Valby. But, strangely enough, they are able to put the miles in she can't, because she apparently gets injured if she does. Amazing how she succeeds on a formula that isn't employed or advocated for the best athletes but only the injury-prone.
You should be quiet on this subject. Until a few months ago you thought "cross-training" meant running on a treadmill.
It doesn't make any difference. It isn't running on a track or the roads and putting in the miles as the best distance runners do. It's a substitute for those who can't do that, who are recovering from injury or who aren't the best athletes. Yet you gullible simpletons think it is like a new "wonder-drug" when it comes to producing success. Perhaps that analogy cuts too close to the bone.
There are genuine oddities about Valby. Her ability to keep coming back stronger from injury. The fact that she never seems to tire. And her personality from the interview seems odd, even off. Again why is she gunning a 5000m if she wants to double unless she has a reason not to worry about tiring? If she can put monster effort after monster effort without fatigue, that seems unusual.
She said it was a 6 or 7 effort out of 10. She wasn’t trying. Sorry she’s in another league than Tuohy.
You should be quiet on this subject. Until a few months ago you thought "cross-training" meant running on a treadmill.
It doesn't make any difference. It isn't running on a track or the roads and putting in the miles as the best distance runners do. It's a substitute for those who can't do that, who are recovering from injury or who aren't the best athletes. Yet you gullible simpletons think it is like a new "wonder-drug" when it comes to producing success. Perhaps that analogy cuts too close to the bone.
Gullible simpletons? No. We know how things work. You had a couple of posters sharing their experiences, explaining the cooling effect of the air as you move forward. You are the simpleton who sees doping everywhere.
Valby has said she never does more than 60 to 70 on the arc. I’m pretty sure people are seriously underestimating her running volume. After xc, she said she does up to 30 miles of quality volume a week. That’s really quite a bit. Remember justyn knight did 30-40 mpw TOTAL volume in college.
This is my weekend to move out of CA so I am not seeing everything live. Valby was extremely impressive in that final k after apparently running about15:00 pace for 4k. What jumps out to me is the huge leap she took in 4 or 5 months from being a 15:20 something runner to apparently a 14:40 something runner.. Have we seen anyone do that before? And like astro says while she looks like she is working hard running after a race she shows no effects.
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