Jakob Ingebrigtsen were you watching? Jake Wightman 1:43.65. Was Ingebrigtsen the biggest loser in Brussels?

Some people here act as Wightman is the second coming!

Before this season Wightman had only got one international medal ( the bronze from European Champs in 2018 where Jakob took gold at age 17; Wightman (and Lewandowski) only came close in the finish because the "lap count" by mistake was indicating there was one lap left so Jakob thought he was finishing one lap early).

A month before the WC final Jakob beat Wightman in the Dream Mile with almost 4 seconds.

After the WC final Wightman was beaten by Hoare and Timothy at the CW games.

You shall never say never but I find it unlikely that Wightman (29 next season) will beat Jakob again.

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Season final in the 1500m in Zürich: I think Jakob will take the front when the pacemaking finish and win easily.

You are correct. I miscalculated. Thanks.

While this may trigger the jittery types, there are not a lot of people that can run a sub 3:28 but couldn't go sub 1:44, even if not all of them actually went out and did.

It's questionable whether Jakob could, which may explain his increasing interest in longer distances. I don't think he believes he can go sub 3:28.

It never fails to astonish me how much people can write and still be totally uninformed.

Jake Wightman said he will run the 800 m in Zurich. Why would Jakob then have to "burn off Wightman's kick" there?

Congrats Jake! You ran slightly faster than a 19-year-old did 56 years ago in $hit shoes on a $hit track! 👏 👏 👏

If Jake Wightman ran 1:43.65 for 800m merely to dodge Jakob Ingebrigtsen at 1500m, I wonder what Wightman's capabilities would be for 800m if he really made an effort at it. ;)

If Jakob runs 3.27 pace he blows up. Only full EPO gets him or anyone near that.

Obviously he wasn't on the "right stuff" - like Amos and so many others. But you don't show much respect for what was once the wr by that 19 year old. I guess that's because everybody is running faster these days.

I posted it a couple hours after he announced that. Petty to dunk on me 2 days plus later.

I agree with JWH on Jakob. He seized the lead with 800 to go because he though Kipsang/Tim would slow to 57-59. But then he didn’t pick it up and instead was warding off their attacks. If he runs 55.5 pace or faster they are not trying to go by him and Wightman is further off the pace and feeling less good I presume.

If he runs 55.5 or faster, as you suggest, he may have nothing to fend off attacks in the home straight. The illusion here is that Jakob has reserves of stamina he hasn't used. He may not. Even with a slower lap he had nothing left to counter Wightman.

Extremely scientific statement with zero proof.

Does Wightman have the energy/belief to attack early enough off a hotter pace? And he might have to go past the two Kenyans who could put up a fight having queue up behind Jakob instead of challenging him. It’s a lot of hypotheticals and we’ll never know. Jakob couldn’t pick it up from 54-high pace the last lap, but that could easily be down to him burning off excess energy keeping Cheruiyot at bay.

You are making absolutely no sense. I'm showing a lot of respect for what Ryun did. I am somewhat facetiously paying less respect than many are for what Jake just did. Everyone like you acts like today's athletes are better and all on drugs and I'm saying apparently you are wrong because today's 800 runners might not even beat a 19-year-old kid in s*** shoes on a s*** track from 56 years ago!

Ryun went out slow and was not even trying to run 144 and did a pretty big negative split. Keep him in the same shoes on the same track and JUST give him a rabbit and an even pace and he might have beaten Jake's time. And Jake right now is as good as any 800 runner in the world. So.... clearly not "everyone is on drugs", OR... if they are , the drugs are not working very well.

well excuse me, I know you do not think "everyone is on drugs", only every dark skinned athlete is.

When weight Runners like Jakob or Fisher or Burgin run extraordinary times and beat most the best Africans of all time top performances then surely you believe it is a clean result / legit, but when the Africans run those times it is "beyond comprehension / human capability " and must be cheating. Hilarious double standard.

If Burgin runs 141 you will not accuse him of being on drugs. if Jacob runs 326/27 or 12:40 you will not accuse him of being on drugs. if Fisher runs 2629 you will not accuse him of being on drugs. And only a handful of Africans have ever beaten those times but yet you feel they are all cheaters and that even the ones slower than "the great white hopes" are also on drugs. You're absurd.

"White" not weight

You are clearly uninformed about doping. Amos has been busted. Doping is right through the sport. Athlete surveys have shown over 40% of championship athletes have doped - they admitted it in confidential surveys.

I think it's time to ban you from letsrun. Every thread gets contaminated by you with unfounded doping talk.

You are poorly informed - not only about doping but my own views on the subject. I have repeatedly said that doping is everywhere, to a greater or lesser extent, and isn't defined by race. Your comments on what I would say about Burgin (I have questioned his achievements) and Fisher (I suspect he dopes and have said so) are ignorant.

On Ryun - 1.44.3 in 1966 was fantastic. It isn't today. It is a commonplace.

As I said in a previous post - more than 40% of championship athletes admitted to doping in confidential surveys. As a former WADA head has said - "only the dumb and the careless get caught". In the words of the Jamaican whistleblower Renee Ann Shirley - "doping is present in all sports at the top level and in all countries".

So over 40% of championship athletes didn't admit to doping?

He was busted in 2022 and he is running since 2012 (at least).

Why doping didn't help to get more than one single silver Olympic medal at the age 18?