Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

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The nuclear option wrote:

A Facebook page?

A petition?

You people are badasses.

And Freedom Fighters.

Don't let anyone tell you that you are wasting your time.

You are like George Washington's troops, riding in X-Wing Fighters, listening to "Real American" by Hulk Hogan on the stereo.

It's not a waste of time. Mike is known forever as a cheater to his wife, kids, friends, and family. And doing it after the marathon was attacked by terrorists just makes it all the more disgusting. Maybe Mike can sell commemorative box cutters at the 9/11 Memorial.

Forman wrote:

sooooooooooooo wrote:

What was your point again?

The RW crowd has jumped over to LR and made this a hobbyjoggerfest. We should all just stay on our sides.

Oh ok sorry I didn't know you were defending Mike Rossi

~Hobby Jogger

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

The nuclear option wrote:

A Facebook page?

A petition?

You people are badasses.

And Freedom Fighters.

Don't let anyone tell you that you are wasting your time.

You are like George Washington's troops, riding in X-Wing Fighters, listening to "Real American" by Hulk Hogan on the stereo.

It's not a waste of time. Mike is known forever as a cheater to his wife, kids, friends, and family. And doing it after the marathon was attacked by terrorists just makes it all the more disgusting. Maybe Mike can sell commemorative box cutters at the 9/11 Memorial.

It's not a waste of your time, Kenny, because your time has no value.

sooooooooooooo wrote:

Forman wrote:

The RW crowd has jumped over to LR and made this a hobbyjoggerfest. We should all just stay on our sides.

Oh ok sorry I didn't know you were defending Mike Rossi

~Hobby Jogger

I race at least what you f*ckers here at letsrun race and I ain't no hobby-jogger and I ain't visit RW.

I've been posting on letsrun (~2003) since you was cuddlin' with Cabbage Patch

Get a job wrote:

It's not a waste of your time, Kenny, because your time has no value.

What good is time or money when you've got nobody to share it with?

Mike's sleeping on the couch. His kids laugh whenever he wears his Boston swag. Back to school night at Rydal Elementary should be pretty interesting when nobody talks to the Rossi family.

Mike's most precious things in his life are two prefabricated pieces of metal and a thousand dollars worth of BAA merchandise that he can't wear to another race without being stared down by other runners.

It's been fun, but there is just too much negative energy here and too many new a$$holes who post bullshlt and lots of great people who used to post all the time who have left or gone underground. I'm out. Life is too short. I'll be in kona. Hope to see some of you there. Paulo knows how to find me.

The hard work of putting in hundreds of miles a month for six to nine months, running tired, sometimes beat up from the effort. Long runs, hills, tempos, speed work. Days when you wonder if it is all worth it, just to run another marathon.

It is worth it.

Rossi, you should try it instead of 15 miles a week and then cheating to get into the Boston marathon.

Rosssiiiii cmon boy fess up wrote:

Why is Rossi's profile photo now An American flag?[/quote]

Mike Rossi cheated his way in to Boston so that he could demonstrate to his kids everything that's great about America. Dedication! Love! Perseverance! Principles! Family! Troops! Freedom Trail! Civic Pride! America! Flag! Culinary Arts! Patriotism! Founding Fathers! American freedom! Overcoming adversity! Heroes! American graveyards! Swimming! Farmers! Tea Party! Sacrifice! Aquariums! Physical Education! Ice cream! Freedom! America! So help me God!

Principles Principals wrote:

Rosssiiiii cmon boy fess up wrote:

Why is Rossi's profile photo now An American flag?

Mike Rossi cheated his way in to Boston so that he could demonstrate to his kids everything that's great about America. Dedication! Love! Perseverance! Principles! Family! Troops! Freedom Trail! Civic Pride! America! Flag! Culinary Arts! Patriotism! Founding Fathers! American freedom! Overcoming adversity! Heroes! American graveyards! Swimming! Farmers! Tea Party! Sacrifice! Aquariums! Physical Education! Ice cream! Freedom! America! So help me God![/quote]

America....FVCK YEAH!

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

Principles Principals wrote:

Rosssiiiii cmon boy fess up wrote:

Why is Rossi's profile photo now An American flag?

Mike Rossi cheated his way in to Boston so that he could demonstrate to his kids everything that's great about America. Dedication! Love! Perseverance! Principles! Family! Troops! Freedom Trail! Civic Pride! America! Flag! Culinary Arts! Patriotism! Founding Fathers! American freedom! Overcoming adversity! Heroes! American graveyards! Swimming! Farmers! Tea Party! Sacrifice! Aquariums! Physical Education! Ice cream! Freedom! America! So help me God!

America....FVCK YEAH![/quote]

You can't spell 'Merika without Mike.

Just Some Facts for Newbies:1. Rossi posted a letter online that he received from the principal of his children's elementary school because he took his two children out of school to watch him run in the Boston Marathon. 2. He then responded by writing and posting a sarcastic and self-serving letter to the principal, addressing it "Dear Madam Principal" rather using her real name which would have demonstrated generally accepted standards of respect (he later tries to claim he loves the school and the principal and meant no harm). He essentially threw a hissy fit because he believed that he and his family should be treated differently than any other school district families.3. He never sent that letter to the principal or any other school administrator but instead posted it online. One could understand taking this public AFTER you have exhausted all avenues of recourse in private that responsible people first try, that is, meeting with school officials first. 4. He subsequently said he posted both letters on only his Facebook page which were solely intended for his "friends" to see. He then denied that he posted either letter anywhere else but to his Facebook page, yet that was a lie as has been shown via screen captures and saved images of his twitter account and other social media sources (including his company website) that he posted/reposted and tweeted/retweeted said letters and giving TV and radio interviews, all before ever meeting with any administrator in the school district. One could argue that he was cyber-bullying the principal by his childish behavior. 5. The principal did not single out Rossi or treat him and his two children any different than any of the other 7,500 students in the school district. 6. This attention brought scrutiny to his public "running" and race times, as well as all of his posting and boasting on his social media accounts. As questions arose, the once very public figure decided to go uncharacteristically quiet and close his social media accounts or made them private. 7. Prior to any of this, Rossi posted and boasted ad- nauseam about his running and training like he was an accomplished or expert runner or athlete, although much of it sounded quite amateurish. He posted pictures of his "feats" and races like a teen.8. He "runs" the race of a lifetime at the Lehigh Valley Health Network Via Marathon after only 18 months of running and total of about 1,000 miles at the age of 46 and all of sudden he finds modesty and barely mentions his Lehigh Valley Health Network Via Marathon's race time, in spite of somehow cutting an enormous amount of time from his PR. After every other race, he wrote ad-nauseam on his social media accounts and posted tons of pictures at each race. However, for some reason, barely a peep from him after the LVM. Things that make you go hmm? 9. When questioned in an interview about the disconnect between previous race times and his LVM race time/pace, he said he wasn’t trying in the other races yet in his posts he blatantly boasted about his race times and expressed how he thought his races were good etc., thus his posted comments are consistent with someone trying to do his best and trying to get BQ. In fact, in the Philadelphia Marathon he mentions his time and the BQ and being upset that he "just" missed a BQ because of a bathroom break. 10. There is not one single photograph of Rossi on the LVM race course, with the exception of the ones at the finish line. The race course did not have time mats but did have several camera checkpoints on the course. There is a nearly continuous run of photos at least three checkpoints. Here are five checkpoints of photos of the Top 200 finishers, guess who is missing? Yep, Mike Rossi, bib# 2161. https://youtu.be/vGilRGr2GlI11. At one of the photo checkpoints there was on average more than 48 photos published per minute for a 13 minute stretch during which Rossi would have to run by the checkpoint (with the fewest photos in any one minute stretch being 40 photos). All of the 20 closest finishers to Rossi (in terms of place, 10 ahead, 10 behind) were spotted at all three checkpoints and yet Mr. Rossi is absent from all three.12. An analysis of the first photo checkpoint revealed that 199 of the top 200 finishers were photographed. Guess who is missing? Is it a coincidence that the individual who ran his fastest pace at this distance and even faster than many of the shorter distances (in spite of usually slowing down over longer races) did not have one single photo on the course? I think not. 13. The LVM Committee did NOT confirm nor did it state that they believed that Rossi ran the entire race, and they did NOT say that they thought his time was accurate. Quite the opposite, as their statement said there was "no conclusive evidence that his time was inaccurate". Saying or concluding one's time is accurate (and here is why) is much different than saying that there was no conclusive evidence that one's time was inaccurate. In fact, they did not did provide any evidence that his time was accurate. How could they? They did not have interim timing mats and there was not a photo to be found of him on the course. Moreover, they didn't even address the issue of photos in their statement.14. Other runners can at least point to time stamped photos at various points on the course to say – "there I am", which is more than can be said for Rossi15. The lack of photos of Rossi is arguably more damning than his time/pace time. Why? One can debate race times/pace, training etc., but there is no bias in continuous, time-stamped photos being taken. That is not to say that race times/pace and training is not an important piece of evidence, it is, especially in light of his other race times, particularly his pace in 5k's.16. The mere fact that the LVM Race Director decided to impanel a committee to "review" this debacle meant there was enough "probable cause" to do so. Therefore, it is the LVM Committee's and Rossi's responsibility to provide the conclusive evidence that his time is accurate, not anyone else's to provide conclusive evidence that his time is inaccurate.17. Of course this isn’t any evidence he ran the race or his time is inaccurate because the LVM abdicated its responsibility of ensuring accuracy and validity of the race times before the race by not having timing mats throughout the race course and after the race by its flawed investigation, reasoning and statement. 18. Rossi claims to have photos and other exculpatory evidence to demonstrate that his time is accurate. It is time for Rossi to provide any and all information that he claims to possess rather than just saying so. Saying so does not make it true. If he truly has such evidence, then there is no reason why he should not or would not share it. NONE. Failure to provide this information can only lead one to reasonably conclude that he is lying about this so called "evidence" and thus, he cheated and his time is inaccurate. 19. "In a subsequent conversation with the lawyer [Rossi's lawyer], he said that Mr. Rossi “has identified at last 6 photos, (and) a possible a 7th photo where he thinks he’s in the image of people running on the course.” Conveniently, neither the lawyer or Mr. Rossi would provide us with the photos or links to the photos." Quote taken from http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/05/the-evidence-is-overwhelming-mike-rossi-the-viral-marathon-dad-is-a-marathon-cheat-and-should-never-have-been-on-the-starting-line-in-boston/

Rossi hates America wrote:

The hard work of putting in hundreds of miles a month for six to nine months, running tired, sometimes beat up from the effort. Long runs, hills, tempos, speed work. Days when you wonder if it is all worth it, just to run another marathon.

It is worth it.

Rossi, you should try it instead of 15 miles a week and then cheating to get into the Boston marathon.

Look, it's all well and good for you cis-marathoners to talk about training hard, running hundreds of miles, hills, tempos, getting from point a to b on foot - but it's disrminatory and it needs to stop. The America I love is inclusive to all people of all races, genders, and marathoning ability. Mike Rossi is a trans-marathoner. He likes to take part in the "marathon experience", take a photo of himself at the start, and after driving 25 miles or so, proudly run across the finish line and claim that finishers medal. Then for him, for just a moment, one beautiful shame free moment, he feels like he truly belongs, that he's no different from the cis-marathoners. He can proudly identify himself as being a marathoner.

We should make this a safe place for Mike to come out as s trans-marathoner. Allow him to identify as a marathoner. Heck, I picture eventually we'll see a trans-marathoner bus at the starting line of every inclusive marathon ready to drive the trans-marathoners to the finish. Inside they can pour water on themselves and get ready to come out of the bus glistening and ready for what I call their "1000m run of belonging".

Mike, I want you to know there are people out there who support you as a trans-marathoner and that you are just as special as the cis-marathoners with whom you choose to identify with. Nobody will tell you that you need to run the middle 25 miles of a marathon ever again, Mike. This is a safe place for you now.

Come on Everyone Sing It - Can we dance with your dates?

Don't know much about running

Don't know much about speed work

Don't know much about a training book

Don't know much about the PICTURES THEY TOOK

But I do know that I love myself

And I know that if you love me, too

What a wonderful world this would be

Don't know much about being honest

Don't know much about being modest

Don't know much about a BQ

Don't know what a DQ is for

But I do know one and one is two

And if this one could be with you

What a wonderful world this would be

Now, I don't claim to be a running student

But I'm trying to be

For maybe by being a running student

I can win your love for me

Don't know much about being honest

Don't know much about being modest

Don't know much about a training book

Don't know much about the pictures they took

But I do know that I love myself

And I know that if you love me, too

What a wonderful world this would be

La ta ta ta ta ta ta (honest)

Hmm-mm-mm (modest)

La ta ta ta ta ta ta (training book)

Hmm-mm-mm (pictures they took)

Yeah, but I do know that I love myself

And I know that if you love me, too

What a wonderful world this would be

Just Some Facts for Newbies:

1. Rossi posted a letter online that he received from the principal of his children's elementary school because he took his two children out of school to watch him run in the Boston Marathon.

2. He then responded by writing and posting a sarcastic and self-serving letter to the principal, addressing it "Dear Madam Principal" rather using her real name which would have demonstrated generally accepted standards of respect (he later tries to claim he loves the school and the principal and meant no harm). He essentially threw a hissy fit because he believed that he and his family should be treated differently than any other school district families.

3. He never sent that letter to the principal or any other school administrator but instead posted it online. One could understand taking this public AFTER you have exhausted all avenues of recourse in private that responsible people first try, that is, meeting with school officials first.

4. He subsequently said he posted both letters on only his Facebook page which were solely intended for his "friends" to see. He then denied that he posted either letter anywhere else but to his Facebook page, yet that was a lie as has been shown via screen captures and saved images of his twitter account and other social media sources (including his company website) that he posted/reposted and tweeted/retweeted said letters and giving TV and radio interviews, all before ever meeting with any administrator in the school district. One could argue that he was cyber-bullying the principal by his childish behavior.

5. The principal did not single out Rossi or treat him and his two children any different than any of the other 7,500 students in the school district.

6. This attention brought scrutiny to his public "running" and race times, as well as all of his posting and boasting on his social media accounts. As questions arose, the once very public figure decided to go uncharacteristically quiet and close his social media accounts or made them private.

7. Prior to any of this, Rossi posted and boasted ad- nauseam about his running and training like he was an accomplished or expert runner or athlete, although much of it sounded quite amateurish. He posted pictures of his "feats" and races like a teen.

8. He "runs" the race of a lifetime at the Lehigh Valley Health Network Via Marathon after only 18 months of running and total of about 1,000 miles at the age of 46 and all of sudden he finds modesty and barely mentions his Lehigh Valley Health Network Via Marathon's race time, in spite of somehow cutting an enormous amount of time from his PR. After every other race, he wrote ad-nauseam on his social media accounts and posted tons of pictures at each race. However, for some reason, barely a peep from him after the LVM. Things that make you go hmm?

9. When questioned in an interview about the disconnect between previous race times and his LVM race time/pace, he said he wasnt trying in the other races yet in his posts he blatantly boasted about his race times and expressed how he thought his races were good etc., thus his posted comments are consistent with someone trying to do his best and trying to get BQ. In fact, in the Philadelphia Marathon he mentions his time and the BQ and being upset that he "just" missed a BQ because of a bathroom break.

10. There is not one single photograph of Rossi on the LVM race course, with the exception of the ones at the finish line. The race course did not have time mats but did have several camera checkpoints on the course. There is a nearly continuous run of photos at least three checkpoints. Here are five checkpoints of photos of the Top 200 finishers, guess who is missing? Yep, Mike Rossi, bib# 2161.

https://youtu.be/vGilRGr2GlI

11. At one of the photo checkpoints there was on average more than 48 photos published per minute for a 13 minute stretch during which Rossi would have to run by the checkpoint (with the fewest photos in any one minute stretch being 40 photos). All of the 20 closest finishers to Rossi (in terms of place, 10 ahead, 10 behind) were spotted at all three checkpoints and yet Mr. Rossi is absent from all three.

12. An analysis of the first photo checkpoint revealed that 199 of the top 200 finishers were photographed. Guess who is missing? Is it a coincidence that the individual who ran his fastest pace at this distance and even faster than many of the shorter distances (in spite of usually slowing down over longer races) did not have one single photo on the course? I think not.

13. The LVM Committee did NOT confirm nor did it state that they believed that Rossi ran the entire race, and they did NOT say that they thought his time was accurate. Quite the opposite, as their statement said there was "no conclusive evidence that his time was inaccurate". Saying or concluding one's time is accurate (and here is why) is much different than saying that there was no conclusive evidence that one's time was inaccurate. In fact, they did not did provide any evidence that his time was accurate. How could they? They did not have interim timing mats and there was not a photo to be found of him on the course. Moreover, they didn't even address the issue of photos in their statement.

14. Other runners can at least point to time stamped photos at various points on the course to say "there I am", which is more than can be said for Rossi

15. The lack of photos of Rossi is arguably more damning than his time/pace time. Why? One can debate race times/pace, training etc., but there is no bias in continuous, time-stamped photos being taken. That is not to say that race times/pace and training is not an important piece of evidence, it is, especially in light of his other race times, particularly his pace in 5k's.

16. The mere fact that the LVM Race Director decided to impanel a committee to "review" this debacle meant there was enough "probable cause" to do so. Therefore, it is the LVM Committee's and Rossi's responsibility to provide the conclusive evidence that his time is accurate, not anyone else's to provide conclusive evidence that his time is inaccurate.

17. Of course this isnt any evidence he ran the race or his time is inaccurate because the LVM abdicated its responsibility of ensuring accuracy and validity of the race times before the race by not having timing mats throughout the race course and after the race by its flawed investigation, reasoning and statement.

18. Rossi claims to have photos and other exculpatory evidence to demonstrate that his time is accurate. It is time for Rossi to provide any and all information that he claims to possess rather than just saying so. Saying so does not make it true. If he truly has such evidence, then there is no reason why he should not or would not share it. NONE. Failure to provide this information can only lead one to reasonably conclude that he is lying about this so called "evidence" and thus, he cheated and his time is inaccurate.

19. "In a subsequent conversation with the lawyer [Rossi's lawyer], he said that Mr. Rossi has identified at last 6 photos, (and) a possible a 7th photo where he thinks hes in the image of people running on the course. Conveniently, neither the lawyer or Mr. Rossi would provide us with the photos or links to the photos." Quote taken from

http://www.letsrun.com/news/20...in-boston/

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6479539&page=361#ixzz3dQEom9JS

Keep these gems coming!

Rossi is trying to divert from this thread by starting another.

Even this doesn't add up to 311

Get an average goin wrote:

What do you think is the average IQ of mike Rossi, Lisa Walkiewicz, and Barb McKeever?

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

Get a job wrote:

It's not a waste of your time, Kenny, because your time has no value.

What good is time or money when you've got nobody to share it with?

Mike's sleeping on the couch. His kids laugh whenever he wears his Boston swag. Back to school night at Rydal Elementary should be pretty interesting when nobody talks to the Rossi family.

Mike's most precious things in his life are two prefabricated pieces of metal and a thousand dollars worth of BAA merchandise that he can't wear to another race without being stared down by other runners.

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