Has Bekele just legitimised his WRs? Clean? GOAT?

cleans wrote:

Dead Nike Lunar Forever 2s wrote:

I heard somewhere that in order to fool the epo detection in these tests all one need do is go on all night bender, the alcohol messes with the sensitivity. Anyone have any other info?

No need. Just micro-dose your EPO, or use gear that that the testers haven't learned about yet (or don't want to know about).

Look at UKAD. Pretty much all their 'busts' are for PEDs that have been in use since man first wanted to lift a particularly heavy stone or sprint after a herd of deer. (Clenbuterol, Stanozolol, HGH, Ephedrine...)

Mate, I lived in the UK for a while and most of their gyms are stocked with dodgy supplements that they sell at the front counter (eg SARMs). Anyway I'm pretty sure the whole epo test is still quite weak, just asking.

Metric Miler wrote:

Will he defeat Farah in the WC 10k next year?

Discus.

nobody cares what you think

I am very skeptical of this comeback. They're cooking up something there in Ethiopia.

Trackbot! Keninsa Bekele PRs vs haile gebrselassie PRs

TrackBot! Compare kenenisa bekele vs haile gebrselassie

Head-to-head record between kenenisa bekele (left) and haile gebrselassie (right):

FBKG Hengelo 2003-06-01: 10000 m: 26:53.70 (1) VS 26:54.58 (2)

GGala Roma 2003-07-11: 5000 m: 12:57.34 (2) VS 13:00.32 (3)

GGala Roma 2003-07-11: 3000 m: 7:45.7h (2) VS 7:45.8h (3)

WC Saint-Denis 2003-08-24: 10000 m: 26:49.57 (1) VS 26:50.77 (2)

OG Athína 2004-08-20: 10000 m: 27:05.10 (1) VS 27:27.70 (5)

OG Beijing 2008-08-17: 10000 m: 27:01.17 (1) VS 27:06.68 (6)

Great North South Shields 2013-09-15: Half Marathon: 60:09 (1) VS 60:41 (3)

kenenisa "MF" bekele total wins: 7

haile "DEVASTATED" gebrselassie total wins: 0

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Kenenisa, Destroyer of Worlds wrote:

Harry G man wrote:

Berkele strikes me as a great runner who has benefitted from PED's.

No.

Bekele looks normal for a world class runner--thin but not gaunt. Farah looks like a sickly skeleton covered with skin. Now, who is the major PED user?

TrackBot wrote:

VDOT for 2:03:03 42.195km: 83.6

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 02:02:50

Half marathon: 00:58:37

15K: 00:40:50

10K: 00:26:40

5K: 00:12:48

3Mi: 00:12:20

2Mi: 00:07:56

3200m: 00:07:53

3K: 00:07:20

1Mi: 00:03:43

1600m: 00:03:41

1500m: 00:03:26

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Marathon is 2:02:50 but 42.195km is 2:03:03?

TrackBot wrote:

Head-to-head record between kenenisa bekele (left) and haile gebrselassie (right):

FBKG Hengelo 2003-06-01: 10000 m: 26:53.70 (1) VS 26:54.58 (2)

GGala Roma 2003-07-11: 5000 m: 12:57.34 (2) VS 13:00.32 (3)

GGala Roma 2003-07-11: 3000 m: 7:45.7h (2) VS 7:45.8h (3)

WC Saint-Denis 2003-08-24: 10000 m: 26:49.57 (1) VS 26:50.77 (2)

OG Athína 2004-08-20: 10000 m: 27:05.10 (1) VS 27:27.70 (5)

OG Beijing 2008-08-17: 10000 m: 27:01.17 (1) VS 27:06.68 (6)

Great North South Shields 2013-09-15: Half Marathon: 60:09 (1) VS 60:41 (3)

kenenisa "MF" bekele total wins: 7

haile "DEVASTATED" gebrselassie total wins: 0

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OK but these are two runners from different eras, if Haile was the same age as KB he would be the undisputed GOAT and also have all the WRs

farts wrote:

OK but these are two runners from different eras, if Haile was the same age as KB he would be the undisputed GOAT and also have all the WRs

False. Geb never had the xc success that Bekele did.

Bekele has won plenty of medals, set records and won championships but anyone who believes he is PED free is not thinking clearly.

TrackBot! VDOT 17:45 5km

VDOT for 17:45 5km: 57.2

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 02:50:10

Half marathon: 01:21:27

15K: 00:56:35

10K: 00:36:50

5K: 00:17:45

3Mi: 00:17:07

2Mi: 00:11:04

3200m: 00:11:00

3K: 00:10:15

1Mi: 00:05:10

1600m: 00:05:08

1500m: 00:04:47

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TrackBot! Compare kenenisa bekele vs michael j fox

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Metric Miler wrote:

Will he defeat Farah in the WC 10k next year?

Discus.

He hasn't legitimized anything. He was a cheat at the height of the EPO era, and he's a cheat now. Get real.

TrackBot! VDOT 17:45 10km

VDOT for 17:45 10km: 136.5

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 01:21:44

Half marathon: 00:39:17

15K: 00:27:30

10K: 00:17:59

5K: 00:08:35

3Mi: 00:08:16

2Mi: 00:05:19

3200m: 00:05:17

3K: 00:04:56

1Mi: 00:02:32

1600m: 00:02:31

1500m: 00:02:21

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KB's 5000m and 10000m records have also stood the test of time. They have stood for over a decade. Nobody has held either record this long since WW2. Nobody has even come close since.