After seeing that race Kerr is probably so thankful he pulled out of that
Tbh I really wish he hadn't. He looked very relaxed dominating 5th ave in 3:47, I would really have liked to see him in the mile today. I have no doubt he would have lost to Jakob and Nuguse but I think he might have had a 3:44-3:45 British record in him. He's certainly clear of the rest of the field.
He should have been in there for head to head and run a national record even if he lost. Look at the 400H when 3 guys were just bombing the all time list. 5th Ave mile was a clear dodge for future meet appearance fees as WC and nothing to do with great competition. He missed out but it should be something to look forward to next year in Paris.
Conversion has NOTHING to do with whether you had a pacer or not. And the mile to 1500 conversion is the most confirmed in the sport.
You are 0 for 2 but keep paddling.....
Sorry but Nuguse ran 1609m with perfect pacing, using that as a conversion for 1500m is only appropriate if we assume he will get 1500m of perfect pacing. This is really basic stuff. So
I admire Naguse's humility and respect. In his interview he only showed JI respect that he does make the bar higher for everyone else, but it does not mean he can't beat him one day.
I never said he was a 3:27 1500m runner. He is a 3:43 miler. No conversions necessary. No hypotheticals. He ran 3:43 for the mile. A time only 3 runners have bettered. An AR by almost three full seconds. Faster than Morceli, Cram, Coe, Ovett, Aouita, Lagat, Kiplagat, Kiprop, and many many more. Having another runner in the race does not discredit the time. It did not for Ngeny when he ran 3:43 and then became an Olympic champion the next year. The simple fact is that is that Nuguse ran 1 mile in 3 minutes, 43.97 seconds, and that is amazing.
"I never...". You replied to my reply about conversions to the 1500 saying "useless comment". I point out the obvious, he had perfect pacing in this race which undoubtedly gained him plenty of time. I was replying to the conversion chart. Go back to bed with your lame "I never said", the conversion chart did, which is what I was replying to.
Please stop posting. If you can’t tell from the downvotes, your stupid comments are getting in the way of the thread’s flow.
Conversion has NOTHING to do with whether you had a pacer or not. And the mile to 1500 conversion is the most confirmed in the sport.
You are 0 for 2 but keep paddling.....
Sorry but Nuguse ran 1609m with perfect pacing, using that as a conversion for 1500m is only appropriate if we assume he will get 1500m of perfect pacing. This is really basic stuff. So
You are correct of course. The standard conversion from having too favorable circumstances to regular is 1.27. So 3:43.97/1.08 = 3:27.38; 3:27.38 x1.27 = 4:23.37. So Nuguse’s run was only worth 4:23.37 for 1500, honestly not that promising.
and when I answered two days ago that Y. Nuguse or R. Cheruiyot are potential Olympic champions 2024 in a thread started by Rojo, some didn't believe me.
Unless Laros prove he is resistant in the next two years (which doesn't seems obvious) we have restricted choices
Waiting that time Morocco prepare the next big thing after El Bakkali:
Nordas has (non-Americans) improved 7 seconds in 1 year.
I don’t even want to get started on “no-talent” Nordas. He closed a 3:29 championship 1500 in under 53 seconds. Now he’s losing to Laros in a 2000 and can’t break 55 seconds for the last lap running from the back in a 3:48.2 mile.
What's questionable? He showed undeniable talent at Notre Dame, running 3:34 solo as a junior and always having great closing speed. Natural closing speed and a massive stride is usually a strong indicator that there's more potential. That's not even mentioning how undertrained he was at ND and how wonky his mechanics were. He had said in an interview that he ate Pop Tarts for breakfast and training took a back seat to school. His improvement this year is not surprising considering how he went from that to training full-time with the best middle distance training squad in the world with proper nutrition under his belt. His mile performance today should not be surprising after his 3:47 indoors closing in 25.9. Anybody who has been following him knew that his Wanamaker Mile performance was a glimpse of what would finally happen once his training caught up with his talent. Nothing questionable if you've been paying attention. His 3:43 was basically all the stars aligning in terms of fitness and having one of if not the the greatest middle-long distance runners of all time basically pace him for the entire race. I didn't see rabid haters calling Hobbs Kessler a doper after dropping a 3:34 1500m after only having run a 4:21 1600m and 2:02 800m the year before. I wonder why.
Nice guy, but imagine if a non-American had improved 11 seconds at 24.
the only miles he's ran since 2020 are a couple of miles last year that are B/C tier even in the domestic US running scene. He ran 3:33 low in 2021 which is worth way better than the 3:54 you are looking at.
I honestly cannot believe we're still doing this. Learn how to use the verb "run."
Nuguse is talanted and had a great run, a great stepping stone. But no where near Jacob's level. This was two races: Jacob doing all he work in the last 2 laps and Nuguse hanging on.
Next year Nuguse must activily particpte at the front of the race and challage for the win. He cannot rely on Jacob being the 3rd rabbit.