wtfunny wrote:
might be rcs wrote:Not known to be a successful marathon strategy, but maybe.
Which is exactly what they did .. and Mo couldn't catch the front runners .. though he did catch half of them.
LOL. Farah wasn't even remotely a factor. They didn't "make him work to catch up" since he only fell further behind!
I agree promptly backing off of Geb's stupid pacing allowed them to hit reset and run a great race.
kipsang looks like he can definitely go 202.
moe did well to finish, we'll see him back "on track" after a recovery period.
moe now knows where he's at.
he knows what it means, that the winner ran the first 5k and last 5k more than 30 seconds faster in each segment than his fastest 5k in the race.
and that the winner was going faster in the final 2k than at any time in the race. moe knows that he was dreaming to think he was in the same league.
http://results-2014.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2014/?pid=leaderboard
look for moe to run another marathon say after next olympics, but the training will be more along the lines of a cannova methodology rather than a modified salazar approach.
all in all, it should be a wrap, in conclusion, moe gets worse as the distance gets longer. that is, if you believe in analyzing actual results, which by now are plenty.
bekele on the other hand, as we know is right there. i think that no way bekele beats kipsang, but second or third was definitely within the realm of possibility.
They sped up .. he definitely made some headway on some of that lead pack … take out the top 4.
longjack wrote:
kipsang looks like he can definitely go 202.
moe did well to finish, we'll see him back "on track" after a recovery period.
moe now knows where he's at.
he knows what it means, that the winner ran the first 5k and last 5k more than 30 seconds faster in each segment than his fastest 5k in the race.
and that the winner was going faster in the final 2k than at any time in the race. moe knows that he was dreaming to think he was in the same league.
http://results-2014.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2014/?pid=leaderboardlook for moe to run another marathon say after next olympics, but the training will be more along the lines of a cannova methodology rather than a modified salazar approach.
all in all, it should be a wrap, in conclusion, moe gets worse as the distance gets longer. that is, if you believe in analyzing actual results, which by now are plenty.
bekele on the other hand, as we know is right there. i think that no way bekele beats kipsang, but second or third was definitely within the realm of possibility.
+1
wtfunny wrote:
They sped up .. he definitely made some headway on some of that lead pack … take out the top 4.
Dunno what I was thinking ^here^ .. dumb post. .. I need to go to bed. Great race.
oldlegs wrote:
Mo ran a very solid debut...why bash him? If before the race you were to say he would be within one second of Geoffrey Mutai or Emmanuel Mutai not many here would have believed it....but there you go.
Thank you.
What pretty much everybody in this thread is missing is the Old School element of all this. Mo didn't play it safe. HE TRIED. He put it out there. And when the going got (very) rough, he didn't quit. He didn't faint. No DNF. He gutted it out. He did all this knowing, as many here know, that a 1500 runner has no business trying to remanufacture himself into a marathoner in such short order.
Bill Rodgers dropped out of HIS first marathon at mile 20. "Obviously not made for the marathon." I can only imagine what the LR chorus would have hooted at him, were this troll-pit operational.
{quote i think that no way bekele beats kipsang, but second or third was definitely within the realm of possibility.)
I am not sure, comparing the elevation charts of Paris an London make Paris much harder
only when you compare the corners on the routes the Londo looks harder.
so if i compare Kenny and Kip's time i would state that Kenny got a better run.
On the other hand the bad pacing of GEb in London could be seen a factor.
so to me they seem close 50 / 50 chances
Sleeping now, too.
Great race!
Agreed .. it was a good run. Props to Mo.
submissive male secretary wrote:
As usual, El Keniano speaks the truth. Farah is vastly overrated and nowhere near KB, Geb or Zatopek. But he isn't 0-3 on the road; he won that race against Gebremarian, after which the TV anchor asked him if he'd ever run before.
El Keniano wrote:Only that he was hyped to the galaxies and we have receipts of respected media predicting a win or at least having him mixing it up with the big boys with the British record a given.
Hard truth: He's nowhere near the best of of all time on the track (doesn't have the times) and most certainly not even in Paul Tergat's league, let alone Geb and Bekele . KB is the boss and smoked the field at the marathon on his first attempt. Compare that with Mo who's 0-3 on the road.
Your boy wasn't so sage a couple hours ago:
El Keniano
RE: OFFICIAL 2014 LONDON MARATHON UPDATE THREAD:
Bloody suicidal. I didn't think Mo could win but now I know he will. The big guys have played into his hands.
Hindsight is a beautiful thing.
CyndiLoper wrote:
Your boy wasn't so sage a couple hours ago:
El Keniano
RE: OFFICIAL 2014 LONDON MARATHON UPDATE THREAD:
Bloody suicidal. I didn't think Mo could win but now I know he will. The big guys have played into his hands.
Hindsight is a beautiful thing.
El Keniano gets very emotional about Mo Farah, I think he's shed a lot of tears about Mo smoking his boys on the track for the last number of years.
So he hasn't done the times a number of freakish pharmacology experiments have done in the past? That's to be expected. He's still got the medals.
Mo who? wrote:
Was Dibaba's time the fastest women's debut marathon?
No Radcliffe's debut was 2:18:56.
We'll, I bought into the LR hype and thought the man had a plan. Hindsight really is a beautiful thing. He didn't narrow the gap because it went fro 38 secs to nearly 4 minutes. In a race that couldn't be more optimal for him, including fervent home crowd support and his own pacers, Mo finished 8th (EIGHTH!), and didn't beat anyone of note but Stephen Kiprotich. He really shouldn't leave the track.
Meanwhile, KB is a legitimate contender with a good shot at medaling. Very smart of him to pick Paris.
Too bad we didn't get to see when (presumably) Kipsang made his move. Would have loved to see how the pack responded.
Kebede looked very strong and comfortable in front, just a few minutes earlier.
Yes, Mo slightly annoys me but only because we get a lot of British media in Kenya and you'd think he invented running. Fact is, he's not among the greats, I'd mention him in the the same conversation as a Khalid Skah or Dieter Bauman.
Interesting race to watch. Kipsang looked fantastic and in control the whole time. Think he has 2:02 in him this year.
I think this race was a disaster for Mo. Yes it was his first marathon and a learning experience, but the big worry is that he went out conservatively and still faded badly. If he did the 14:20 opening 5k with the lead group then it would have been even worse. His performance was worlds away from competing with the best marathoners and controlling races. After that I can't see him ever being a factor in the marathon.
a bit like Tadesse?
Were conditions off in some way? What happened to 61:45, etc.?
A Girl Like You wrote:
Were conditions off in some way? What happened to 61:45, etc.?
According to Fernando Cabada's twitter there was a good
headwind from mile 3 to 12.
How's this for a workout? http://connect.garmin.com/activity/470346550
wowzaz wrote:
apparent wrote:Congrats to Steve Way! 2:16:27 (15th overall and 3rd brit). Guy's turning 40 in a few months and doesn't run professionally.
Very very impressive
http://www.steveway.co.uk/?page_id=2
