winnr1 wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
It was also the meat record
Good thing too, there was a lot at steak.
Sports doping is a la carte.
winnr1 wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
It was also the meat record
Good thing too, there was a lot at steak.
Sports doping is a la carte.
casual obsever wrote:
Crow- Magnon wrote:
Casual observer, I pretty much repeated what the lab/testing / USADA people published when Ajee tested positive. You're coming off as if you are more knowledgeable than all of them put together. If this is the case there must be a conspiracy afoot. Anyone else on your radar?
I notice that you didn't argue against anything in my post...
Conspiracy? Just same old, same old, a NADO that lets its athletes off the hook wherever possible.
Other examples:
- Armstrong - never got caught as an athlete by USADA despite his doping to the gills
- NOP - still no athlete one caught, and now USADA is mad at WADA for looking into this
- Rollins - dodged the tester in the airport, which USADA judged as an inadvertently missed test
- Roberts - got away with the kissing excuse
- LMerrit - got away with the supplement excuse
- Gay - got only one year for testo doping
- Drummond - formally got 8 years for doping Gay but is now advising Coleman
- Coleman - gets away with having banned Drummond as advisor
- Coleman - got away with 3 missed tests within 10 months because in the first case, the tester arrived at 7:55, so during the 1 hour window, but allegedly wasted 6 minutes before "beginning" according to USADA, so outside of the 1 hour window, so it was labeled a whereabout failure and thus backdated 2.5 months
- ...
There are more, but you get the point. Why? As Dick Pound said:
There is no general appetite to undertake the effort and expense of a successful effort to deliver doping-free sport.
There's this psychological aspect about it: nobody wants to catch anybody. There's no incentive. Countries are embarrassed if their nationals are caught. And sports are embarrassed if someone from their sport is caught.
Casual, I was unable to refute any of your assertions. I did point out that you seem to think of yourself as more of an expert in peds than the people who do it for a living... Do you and all you other condemners believe there is no possible way an individual could inadvertently ingest a banned substance?
565466 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It is apparent the only comment you bother to read is mine - I should be flattered if you weren't such a brainless prat - because numerous other commenters have discussed doping on this and other threads, for the reason that the sport is rife with the practice. Your fatuous indignation doesn't change that. Clearly you are unable to refute the official data on the appalling incidence of doping and are capable of nothing more than a dumb personal attack. Shoot the messenger, as they say.
Is that all you've got, you brainless cvnt?
It's more than you can handle. But keep the expletives coming because that's all you've got.
Crow- Magnon wrote:
Casual, I was unable to refute any of your assertions. I did point out that you seem to think of yourself as more of an expert in peds than the people who do it for a living... Do you and all you other condemners believe there is no possible way an individual could inadvertently ingest a banned substance?
No need to make it personal. I just can't accept USADA as a neutral, unbiased judge based on its history. Points in case are well known.
FYI, you actually quickly read here what USADA itself wrote:
https://www.usada.org/sanction/ajee-wilson-accepts-finding-of-no-fault/Notably, they did not say that there is proof that zeranol can be transferred from cows to athletes; their only "evidence" was that zeranol may have been present in the beef:
"USADA further relied on reports from multiple independent experts on zeranol in the food supply and environment, including the use of zeranol as a legal growth promotant in beef cattle in the U.S. "
Further, USADA chose to not test the beef in question, let alone organize its own tests whether someone eating this beef would test positive. That is a disappointingly weak "investigation", wouldn't you agree? As someone interested in the truth, I would have very much preferred such tests over letting her off the hook just like that.
In any case, considering the fact that the US had zero zeranol cases before and after Ajee, despite all us meat lovers, her story appears to be a lame excuse.
Ironically, USADA itself writes under its own zeranol faq:
"The risk of a positive doping test from meat contaminated with zeranol is remote. In the U.S., USADA has only seen the single positive test due to zeranol [Wilson] in more than sixteen years."
casual obsever wrote:
Crow- Magnon wrote:
Casual, I was unable to refute any of your assertions. I did point out that you seem to think of yourself as more of an expert in peds than the people who do it for a living... Do you and all you other condemners believe there is no possible way an individual could inadvertently ingest a banned substance?
No need to make it personal. I just can't accept USADA as a neutral, unbiased judge based on its history. Points in case are well known.
FYI, you actually quickly read here what USADA itself wrote:
https://www.usada.org/sanction/ajee-wilson-accepts-finding-of-no-fault/Notably, they did not say that there is proof that zeranol can be transferred from cows to athletes; their only "evidence" was that zeranol may have been present in the beef:
"USADA further relied on reports from multiple independent experts on zeranol in the food supply and environment, including the use of zeranol as a legal growth promotant in beef cattle in the U.S. "
Further, USADA chose to not test the beef in question, let alone organize its own tests whether someone eating this beef would test positive. That is a disappointingly weak "investigation", wouldn't you agree? As someone interested in the truth, I would have very much preferred such tests over letting her off the hook just like that.
In any case, considering the fact that the US had zero zeranol cases before and after Ajee, despite all us meat lovers, her story appears to be a lame excuse.
Ironically, USADA itself writes under its own zeranol faq:
"The risk of a positive doping test from meat contaminated with zeranol is remote. In the U.S., USADA has only seen the single positive test due to zeranol [Wilson] in more than sixteen years."
Casual, The USADA has busted some of our biggest stars. I think they work under the "innocent until proven guilty" premise. The fact that clenbuterol tainted beef can cause a positive( the USADA maintains this has been lab proven) likely had an influence on Ajee's case. Just because the whole country isn't glowing doesn't mean an aberration is impossible.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
565466 wrote:
Is that all you've got, you brainless cvnt?
It's more than you can handle. But keep the expletives coming because that's all you've got.
Oh nice, they banned one of my random IPs...
Thanks.
You, old man. You will remember this on your death bed: you brought nothing good to this world.
Peace.
No one will remember anything you said to them, so no I won't.