Wow! Clayton Murphy's not scared or resting on his laurels. He'll face Hagos G and Paul Chelimo in the 3k at NBIGP

Bad Wigins wrote:

Why not a mile...? wrote:

Don't understand this. He has a PB of 8:18.... That's slow for college let alone the pros. Even if he improved by 25 seconds (unlikely) and runs 7:53 he'll still get crushed by probably at least 15 seconds in this race. What's the point...?

Pacemaker for HG, as I already said.

He has dozens of possible reasons to run this race besides "winning".

jjjjjjj wrote:

I was way, way off in predicting Symmonds' 3k. I figured that a 3:34 guy could not possibly run anywhere near as slow as he ran in that race, but then he was probably out of shape. Murphy is surely going to be a low 3:30 guy in the 1500m this year or next if he gets into a fast race, along with 45.xx relay and 1:42.93. He would not run this race if he didn't believe that he could contend, so I take it that he's been doing over-distance work and feels ready for this. I predict 7:40.

I love Murphy but I think you are going to be "way, way off" with this prediction, too.

I say over under on 8:00 flat is a good start.

Shades of Steve Ovett in 1980 - Olympic gold over 800m (and bronze in the 1500m), then finished his season over 5000m at Crystal Palace with a narrow loss to John Treacy, running 13:24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxxaj1j9nE - harsh title but funny). Always good to see a young, versatile athlete at the very top!

Looking forward to seeing what this guy can do in the coming years. Could be contender for 1500m gold in 2020!

jjjjjjj wrote:

I was way, way off in predicting Symmonds' 3k. I figured that a 3:34 guy could not possibly run anywhere near as slow as he ran in that race, but then he was probably out of shape. Murphy is surely going to be a low 3:30 guy in the 1500m this year or next if he gets into a fast race, along with 45.xx relay and 1:42.93. He would not run this race if he didn't believe that he could contend, so I take it that he's been doing over-distance work and feels ready for this. I predict 7:40.

Fail. For you and CM.

Why?

*mutters to self* people aren't statistics. people aren't numbers. people aren't computers. people aren't algorithms... *repeats twice with hand over heart*

merber: 1:47 (53), 3:34 (56^), 7:53 (63)

noelle: 1:48 (54), 3:38 (58), 7:56 (63.5ish)

centro's 1:44, (52), 3:30 (56), 7:40 (61.low)

wynne: 1:50 (55), 3:38 (58), 7:53 (63) -----13:49

just for a reference...^^^

murphy: 1:42 (51), 3:35 (shut up. he's faster), 8:18 (he sat back)

murphy two years ago: 1:47 (53), 3:40 (59), 14:15 (68.mid)

SOOO

He cut five seconds off his 800 and I believe he's about 7-8 seconds faster in a 1500. He's the type of guy who (probably) would be training more for a 3k/5k right now than a mile or 800, seeing as he probably expects to be sharp until august. i'd feel like i'd be slapping him in the face if i predicted a time that wouldn't get him into ncaa indoor nationals after last year's outdoor campaign. 7:50-55?

any guesses on where he would have finished at ncaa xc?

Lockdown wrote:

You are cucked. If Murphy weren't a white dude you probably wouldn't have thought anything of the headline at all.

What does this even mean?

People who aren't impressed by a professional runner entering off-distance races in the pre-season are allowing their spouses to have intercourse with other people?

Please clarify.

The recent article shared over Let's Run about Murphy shows he is deliberate and thoughtful in his approach to training and racing. So I assume he shows up ready to contend in the 3000 in Boston.

Let's consider his future. He's a current NCAA 1500 champ with an Olympic 800 medal. I think this young man sees a road to becoming a sub 3:30 1500 man in the not-too-distant future.

Murphy has good race sense too, he is primed to become the heir to Centro in terms of bringing 1500 medals home to the U.S., as well as the 800 (not that Centro is going anywhere soon!)

true brit wrote:

Shades of Steve Ovett in 1980 - Olympic gold over 800m (and bronze in the 1500m), then finished his season over 5000m at Crystal Palace with a narrow loss to John Treacy, running 13:24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxxaj1j9nE - harsh title but funny). Always good to see a young, versatile athlete at the very top!

Looking forward to seeing what this guy can do in the coming years. Could be contender for 1500m gold in 2020!

In fact Ovett raced 5000m twice in 1977; in the second race he ran 13:25, losing to Miruts Yifter.

PauI Chelimo wrote:

Paul CheIimo wrote:

Paul CheIimo!

Paul Chelimo!

Paul Chelimo!

Nofan of the nick wrote:

NOP Skeptic wrote:

Symmonds did take on that challenge

He ran a 3k at Husky in 2015. Ran an 8:20. Let's hope Murphy goes faster than 8:20, especially considering he's actually in shape and ran a 3:57 mile indoor last year.

Who did he race? That was my point about the challenge. I doubt it was OLY medalist. Nick too the easy road too many times.

He raced and got dropped by a bunch of sub elite college kids. Your point is indeed proven.

Chelimo, Paul wrote:

PauI Chelimo wrote:

Paul Chelimo!

Paul Chelimo!

jamin!

I feel bad for you wrote:

Lockdown wrote:

You are cucked. If Murphy weren't a white dude you probably wouldn't have thought anything of the headline at all.

What does this even mean?

People who aren't impressed by a professional runner entering off-distance races in the pre-season are allowing their spouses to have intercourse with other people?

Please clarify.

Perfectly stated.

I hope he runs faster than Seb Coe. Coe had such pathetic speed-endurance. Does anyone have Seb's PR somewhere?

Trackbot! Seb Coe PR!

professional runner runs race against other pro runners...

wait so why should he get credit for doing something he is supposed to Rojo?

khow wrote:

I hope he runs faster than Seb Coe. Coe had such pathetic speed-endurance. Does anyone have Seb's PR somewhere?

Trackbot! Seb Coe PR!

coe ran 7:54i in 1987

khow wrote:

I hope he runs faster than Seb Coe. Coe had such pathetic speed-endurance. Does anyone have Seb's PR somewhere?

Trackbot! Seb Coe PR!

Is this the same Seb Coe who beat Bordin over 6.7km XC, when Bordin was an XC specialist?

The problem is it'all be paced to run 7:35 and he's not ready for that. If it went out in even 62-63s, I bet he could go 7:50, maybe even 7:45. Sub 7:50 is a tremendous accomplishment for an 800 runner. Kipketer and Rudisha would have a hard time with 7:45-7:50.

I think he'all go through 1200 in 3:03 with the pack, start falling off the pack but holding on ok, and at 2400 the wheels will really come off. I bet 7:56 going 2:33 / 2:38 / 2:45.

Nofan of the nick wrote:

You'd never see that wimp Symmonds take on that challenge. That's why he is 10000X the runner nick ever was.

Symmonds has a good 1500m time (3:36.04) so what are you talking about!