Salazar completely WASTES Levin's AMAZING fitness on pointless DOUBLES

Not much of a talent if you can't race "pointless doubles" and win. You know who would have totally flattened that field in their prime (even after multiple pointless doubles)? Bekele, Komen, and Geb that's who.

Dial it up wrote:

Fine lets walk through some potential reasons:

8) Some stupid plan pertaining to something Galen is doing

Hey, everyone, look!

Dial it up got something right! One whole thing!

iouerterfd wrote:

Not much of a talent if you can't race "pointless doubles" and win. You know who would have totally flattened that field in their prime (even after multiple pointless doubles)? Bekele, Komen, and Geb that's who.

Meanwhile, Levins were entered in Millrose and failed to deliver against that field.

Yeah, sure, a DNS by one and the other getting ground up in his target indoor race was the "plan" all along.

Salazar did the same thing with Rupp last year and Rupp set an AR in May. He ran 26:44 for Christ's sake. Yeah, Salazar has no clue...

Galen Rupp Number on Fan wrote:

Uh oh. Moved onto Levins now, have you?

No. Big fan of Levins. That's the point. I'm talking about Saladtard's mistakes here.

Can you read?

theoretical theory wrote:

My idea is that the pace was a sort of limbo for Cam. He came through the mile in 4:17. Let's say his ideal 5k pace is 4:10/mile, and his ideal 10k pace is 4:24/mile. I've been there (not 4:17 pace, but hopefully you can commiserate). You feel just as tired coming through the mile 7 seconds off your 5k pace. It's not like you're walking. Plus, you've got the psychological burden of feeling tired at a pace slower than your race pace. It can add up to create a bad day if you're even slightly off.

Although this wouldn't really explain his 8:15 deuce.

No, he has run 7:41 and 13:15.19 outdoors. 64 per 400 is 13:20 pace. So 4:16 would be 13:20 pace. With a last lap of 60 you would have a 13:16, the fastest he has ever run indoors or out. 13:19.16 is his indoor best and the Canadian Record.

So how do you figure his ideal pace is 4:10? That is 13:01 pace? With a 60 sec last lap it would be 12:58?

And what do you need explained to you about the 8:15 2-mile? His indoor best is 8:14.59 (also the Canadian Record). It was set 2 yrs ago at Millrose.

Were you thinking he should shoot for sub-8:00?

I'm surprised so many people are against this, especially considering how many people double in high school meets (no sure about the college level).

Plenty of kids Elite or not run doubles and triples and many of them are not all out almost career bests within 35 minutes, efforts.

Those efforts had residual effect, obviously, he had nothing on big Stage not the New Balance meet , the double could clearly have been used to duplicate some sort of huge efforts needed for rounds, but in a race where he could surely have won off what he had shown? He had not much.

By the way, neither does Rupp right now, virus is plausible and neither does Mary Cain, not sure what folks want to attribute that to.Bui folks still find some form of something to blame it on..

At least allow for the fact that Salazar who knows more than many of us could ever hope to know, might either have a great long term plan, or simply be missing right now, that happens too.

By the way another of the above posters is right, 4:10 is hardly a pace anywhere near 13;15.

And Levins double was really really good stuff, so his fitness was more than just good, it was really good, so something was working until then.

In fact I doubt any U.S. runner, which I know he is not has ever run that double within 30 minutes or so. It was an incredibly high quality effort.

I think sometimes what we watch is something that is fairly jaw dropping, but we do not know the back round, the plan etc.

Actually when you think about it Mary Cain right this second does not seem that much different than a young Alan Webb, amazing jaw dropping success at 17-18 migh side step for a year to two. Has not been near 1:59 20 months ago or 4:24 13 months ago.

I know a fairly reputable coach who kind of knew it would be hard for Webb after 3:53 at 18 would be hard pressed to drop that PR in the immediate future, the investement to get to that was so huge, and a 6 second drop, that they just do not go in a straight line from there.

Roy D. Mercer wrote:

and when Levins, Rupp, Cain, etc. crush the field in the biggest meets of the summer, you'll be way too stupid to credit their heavy training load in February, right?

dude, all you ever do on here is rant and rave and about "libtards" and people trying to "take my guns away ("I DARE YOU TO TRY!!") and how much you hate gays and blacks, so....since when did you start giving a $Hit about the sport of track and field?? I am shocked you even know who "Levins, Rupp, Cain, etc." are.

Go back to being a world class right wing whacko and leave the track talk to the rest of, 'kay?

Suspect it is a case of peaking a little earlier than expected, possibly due to adding more speed.

It's then a case of not being able to hold that peak as far the the hormonal/adrenal functions are concerned.

A runner of the quality of Levin's is not going to have failed to recover from the mile/two-mile double in the space of two weeks, and he obviously wasn't short of fitness.

I've known the feeling myself, especially as a runner who peaks/plateaus/declines very quickly with speed-work.

Flying, going unbelievably well,about three weeks out from a major championship; OK, but not really as good about a week before; feeling like crap in the race.

It's not unfitness; it's not muscle fatigue, since there has been an easy week, or so, but a continued decline from the outstanding form of shortly earlier. I've also rebounded to run really well given two or three weeks of "active recovery."

If they are not doing it now, they'll soon be doing regular cortisol testing to confirm the endocrynal stress.

get used to it.. wrote:

He didn't have a bug. Al Sal's guys don't race with bugs or during a season in which they had a bug.

Wtfunny wrote:

Of course, it's also possible he could've just had aa bit of a bug, too.

He got sick the weekend before. They thought he was recovered well enough. They thought wrong.

By the way, who does have the American record at 1 mile?