Coach Renato got a mention from the commentators when Florence Kiplagat was on her way to winning. They talked about his outspoken internet presence.
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Wilson Kipsang Takes Marathon World Record In Berlin
September 29, 2013
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RENATO CANOVA: WILL THE MARATHON WR BE BROKEN?
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The marathon record needs to be on par with the track records.
2:02 low and Radcliffe's record.
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The marathon record needs to be on par with the track records.
2:02 low and Radcliffe's record.
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You sure came very close. Kipsang is one of the most level-headed athletes I have come to know. In all his interviews, he has always shown respect for the distance as well as the other athletes in the race. He is not corky at all. But this time, he sounded more confident than before and I knew something was up. I felt that if they kept the requested pace, he was going to have to take off too fast around 35k or so in order to shake off Kipchoge and Geoffrey Kipsang and that would slow him a little at the end. Otherwise I felt he was close to 2:03 flat pace for him to be that confident, after all he has been there before(Frankfurt 2011). Good job 1962, Baby! But I bet I beat you in 2011 London marathon where I predicted 2:04:36! It was very close.
1962, Baby! wrote:
You done good, son. I went with 2:03:20 a few posts back. We rock.
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Thanks again for your time and insight, Mr Canova.
The weather is looking good for tomorrow (tonight!)
I predict Wilson Kipsang is going to do it. He seems so damn confident, and it can't just be bravado. 2:03:20.
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Calgary wrote:
I PREDICTED KIPSANG WOULD RUN 2:03:23! I am glad Kipsang did not let me down. I have always believed in him and today he lived upto his billing. Canova is a great coach and I respect him. Though his prediction was of no WR, he still has my respects in the work he has done with these athletes and remember he predicted before that Kipsang among others are able to better Makau's world record. So trust him, he knows what he is talking about. Congratulations today is for Kipsang for coming back after some bad pace work especially in the first half. Kipchoge did a commendable job of holding it up and almost breaking 2:04! Geoffrey Kipsang on the other hand ran aggressively and forgot to save the last bullet to kill the main aggressor(race). He will one day get it if he practises some patience
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Hi Renato. Have you done a Gigliotti-Faraggiana test on any of the "New Turbo-Diesel" marathon runners? If yes, what were the results? If no, how would you expect the results would compare to, say, Baldini and Bordin? Thanks.
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Renato Canova wrote:
How you can see, THE ONLY ATHLETE TAKING EPO WAS ERUPE.
Mathew Kisorio used some steroid, the same all the women and some athlete not very strong, how it's possible to see from the list.
Two of them (Erupe who ran 2:05:37, and Ronald Kipchumba Rutto who ran about 2:12:00 in Linz) used EPO. Both trained in Iten, and were friends of a pharmacist who gave them something illegal, thinking to help them (and probably not knowing it was illegal, since this guy doesn't know anything about the IAAF rules). They met the pharmacist in the only pub in Iten, where sometimes they go to drink (and already this is the clear signal they are not professional, because drinking beer in Kenya means to become drunk...), and explained they had some problem at the moment (cold and flu) and the pharmacist told them to go to meet him next day in the pharmacy, and after gave something for them ok.
You need to know that, in Kenya, is almost not possible to buy a pharmac in its original package. If you need a tablet, pharmacists remove what you need (may be 3-4 tablets when the package is with 20 tablets), because there is a lack of medicines for normal people, and to be sick is very common in these areas. They put the removed tablets in a normal envelop, nothing is written and nobody knows the composition of the medicine.
For all the ladies, all training in Kapsabet, the substance was the same : a steroid old generation, that everybody can take for common problems (for example, osteoporosis), and every athlete went to the same doctor when injured, so I suppose the doctor gave them the pharmac thinking to help the body to recover faster from the injury.
The only athlete really looking for something enhancing his performances was Kisorio. He went to the doctor when was in perfect conditions, asking some help for training more, because his body seemed not able to sustain the volume he needed for running a fast marathon.
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I'm tired to explain the reality to people not using their brain.
Great, Coach, thanks for explaining. As I suspected all along there are only two dopers in Kenya and it's all the pharmacists' fault for slipping them a mickey.
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yyy wrote:
The main difference between Kenyan/Ethiopian runners compared to westerners is that they believe in themselves.
Americans and Europeans are beaten mentally before the gun goes off.
Where the hell have you been? There have been multiple threads on multiple occasions where American elites get bashed for 'trash talking' before a race. It's happened to Ryan and Kara among others.
In this instance, Kipsang was correct with his prediction so it's acceptable. There have been predictions in the past by Kenyans or Ethiopians that didn't come true and no one attacked them for it.
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trash talking is one thing- truly believing in something
is a completely different matter. I am sure you know the difference.
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yyy wrote:
The marathon record needs to be on par with the track records.
2:02 low and Radcliffe's record.
How do you determine what is "on par" with the track records, or the women's record?
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good question. the 5/10K improved a lot before the marathon.
12:39 in the 90s is better than 2:04:55...
More influx of talent to the marathon now...people running the event before they are too old.
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http://www.run-fast-management.net/athletes/matthew_kimutai.phprupp-certified saladbar wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Quick question for you Renato met a who Kenyan recently ran 62 mins for 1/2 at altitude in Nairobi. what do you reckon that is worth approx at sea level on fast course?
Was this in the Standard Chartered marathon? Because that is not a hard course (although it is of course at altitude).
Met him last week, then he raced local 1/2 marathon undulating course ran 1:04xx for win
He looked to be going at 62 pace when he went where I was stood me just before 4m point but eased off with hills and lack of competition
I think he could do 61:00 on a fast course but would need to go back up to altitude then find a class race at sea level
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