PARKER VALBY BREAKS HER OWN COLLEGIATE RECORD IN A CHAMPIONSHIP RACE 14:52

I came to sift through this thread because I have the same question. What was going on with all that bruising on her thighs? They weren't circular like any cupping marks I've ever seen. The natural assumption would be that they're marks from some kind of muscle treatment, but I've never seen bruises like that on an athlete from therapeutic causes before.

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A major threat in the 5K at Trials. Rooting for her

Besides, some people just respond to a training stimulus in an atypical way—and, of course, there’s such a thing as exceptional talent. 14:52 is phenomenal for a 21/22 year old collegiate, sure, but it’s not unbelievable. Zola Budd ran 14:48 at age 19 thirty years ago. Agate Caune ran 8:39 and 15:00 (solo in hot weather) last summer at 18/19. The world record is now 14:00, or ~300 meters ahead of what Valby ran today.

The repetitive doping accusations are the result of petty bitterness and a whole lot of boredom.

She isn't that tired because she can run 14:30s drafting off pros.

It would for sure be cool to see her make the Olympic team, but I'm a little worried that her racing style won't work as well against competition at or above her level. She's been winning these races by being much better than her opponents to the point that she can get away with leading the race. But the way she closed today is a good sign that she may have enough closing ability to contend with people close to her level in a championship race. I would for sure like to see that.

Valby WILL win 5k trials this summer.

She never dominated Valby by time but she was drafting off of her or hanging back in the pack in those races before trouncing her in the finish. Look at NCAAs in 2022. She was way behind Valby and then caught her very quickly and went by easily. Valby is a good deal stronger now and is definitely not all out in these races. You expect NCAA runners to get a lot better when healthy over the course of their career, just as Valby, Blanks, and Young have done, and really, the vast majority of NCAA distance champs over the years.

I agree with you in some ways, but can also understand Astro’s skepticism too. At the pro level, doping is rife. He thinks everyone is naive and ignorant, and - frankly - I can see why. I just don’t think it is at the college level (with - I’m sure - a few exceptions. There are always exceptions). This is one reason I almost prefer NCAAs now over pro (especially those ridiculous road races full of doped up Africans). One of the last bastions of actual ‘clean’ racing. So, I can see where he’s coming from. I’m sure he’d say I’m being naive though.
As you say, Budd ran faster than Valby did tonight 30 years ago .. without the benefit of shoes, alternative training methods.. the shift in times for the average college kid from 30 years ago is huge. Considering the massive shift in times, Budd’s 14.48 has got to be worth a sub 14.30 easily these days. At a younger age than Valby. Now, that’s pretty astounding.

I agree, her times are very good but not good enough to imply doping, imo. She’s a young woman, training hard and having some fun. Why not just watch and enjoy? if something else is going on it will come out later, no one gets away with cheating forever. Maybe her vo2 max is just off the charts?

Well, unfortunately that’s a very naive thing to say.

Congrats! That is awesome for her. I don't follow the Tuohy vs. Valby thing, so I don't have much to add in that regard.

I just have a question. Why is the women's college 5000 record, so far behind the pro women's 5000 in terms of time?

If the WR is 14:00, then there should be a lot of women in the gap between 14:00 and 14:52, right? Couldn't they, if still young, snag some pretty sweet scholarships and fame? Wouldn't that be a springboard to a pro contract? It seems like a massive gap.

In the men's race, the WR and the college times are only 23 seconds apart (approximately). Why is that gap so much smaller?

I'll take my answer off the air. Thanks!

She's got to be doping. How can an American girl suddenly be that good?

Tuohy could never baby!!!!!!!! Eat it!!

(Saying this to trigger you not really a touhy shot lol)

You know what's wrong with you. Your points aren't valid at all. If runner x performed similarly or way better than tuohy at the same age/grade. You warp their performances into doping. Which is weird because most of the comparisons are high schoolers. You do this all while somehow still believing tuohy is clean. You should hear yourself

He should be banned. One of the worst 3 posters here. Valby is by far the greatest NCAA distance runner in history.

Seconded. :)

No. It isnt cross-training.