Does Cooper go sub 13 in Monaco?

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2 years ago 07/21/2023 5:14pm EDT

re: trackfangirl

trackfangirl wrote:
He crashed and burned badly .................. 13:19. He is no way ready for world 5k competition, not even close!

Yeah, I'm sure he's not thrilled about it. Even if he had run near his PR, he would have been ~24 seconds behind the leaders. He's got some good talent and speed – hope he can regroup, rest up, and find a clear event. I also hope this result shows him that he might be better elsewhere. Competing with guys in the 12:40s is no joke, and he needs someone who can bring out his talent.

2 years ago 07/21/2023 5:22pm EDT

re: Quad Smash

He was on pace for 12:55 at 3k

the wheels just came off,

I respect that he stuck his nose in it

2 years ago 07/21/2023 5:36pm EDT

re: Quad Smash

He ran 13:06 alone with Hocker in March last year. He’s definitely taken a step back this year.

2 years ago 07/21/2023 5:51pm EDT

re: damedash

damedash wrote:
He ran 13:06 alone with Hocker in March last year. He’s definitely taken a step back this year.

At four laps it looked to me that Teare was running very hard just trying to maintain contact. He went over his limit and blew up, I can’t believe I’m saying a 13:19 5k is a blow up.

Joe Klecker explains it in this video how he controlled himself not to blow up. Every runner has their blow up point.

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skid row productions never forget wrote:
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Your move Jakob!
#rivalry
If Rachel and Elisabeth run a 600m and we measure times on a couple basis, it would be close.

It would be closer than Cooper and Jakob would be in a 1500m

2 years ago 07/21/2023 6:16pm EDT

re: asterisks

asterisks wrote:
Well.... at least Elisabeth doesn't claim to be a pro runner.

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2 years ago 07/21/2023 7:22pm EDT

re: damedash

damedash wrote:
He ran 13:06 alone with Hocker in March last year. He’s definitely taken a step back this year.

That was with Ben Thomas, a coach who respects his strengths and allows him to race when he feels he needs it. Now he's got the burrito barista serving up shelburritos and such and you only get to race when your micro dosage has cleared your system.

2 years ago 07/21/2023 7:51pm EDT

re: Quad Smash

Quad Smash wrote:
Does Cooper go sub 13 in Monaco, or just a PR?

This didnt age well.

2 years ago 07/21/2023 8:54pm EDT

re: Huangdi

Huangdi wrote:
i have to imagine he’s definitely in sub 13 fitness. perhaps even around 12:55, but it mostly depends what the race ends up looking like. if he gets dragged out into no man’s land by a fast race, it’s gonna be harder to stay on.
i give it a 75% chance of going sub 13.

me and cooper both go home devastated :(

2 years ago 07/21/2023 10:55pm EDT

re: Huangdi (other computer)

2 years ago 07/21/2023 11:01pm EDT

re: Kleckerme78

Too hot. In normal temps Teare is running a 12:56. 3 seconds behind Gressier

2 years ago 07/21/2023 11:30pm EDT

re: joe mother

joe mother wrote:
He was on pace for 12:55 at 3k
the wheels just came off,
I respect that he stuck his nose in it

He struggles to hold 12:55 pace for 3k and you expect him to break 13 lol.

2 years ago 07/22/2023 5:33am EDT

re: Quad Smash

Not a bad run by Teare. Pace was just a bit hot. He's got a pb in him

2 years ago 07/22/2023 6:21am EDT

re: damedash

damedash wrote:
He ran 13:06 alone with Hocker in March last year. He’s definitely taken a step back this year.

He got a loan from Hocker?

2 years ago 07/22/2023 9:04am EDT

re: Does Hocker exist

Does Hocker exist wrote:
damedash wrote:
He ran 13:06 alone with Hocker in March last year. He’s definitely taken a step back this year.
He got a loan from Hocker?

Get on the Nguse train guys. Teare and Hocker arent going to give you much to cheer about.

2 years ago 07/22/2023 12:09pm EDT

re: code5800

code5800 wrote:
He struggles to hold 12:55 pace for 3k and you expect him to break 13 lol.

considering his 3k pr is 7:34, yeah

2 years ago 07/22/2023 11:19pm EDT

re: joe mother

joe mother wrote:
considering his 3k pr is 7:34, yeah

Josh "3:27 High Shape" Kerr hit 7:33 in the same race yet couldn't even go under 13:30 at the Sound Running Meet two months ago. Wouldn't put too much weight behind that time.

2 years ago 07/23/2023 1:23am EDT

re: John Wesley Harding

Why was there a string view he was going to break 13 when season results weren’t indicating that?

2 years ago 07/23/2023 3:11am EDT

re: where did this come from

where did this come from wrote:
Why was there a string view he was going to break 13 when season results weren’t indicating that?

This wasn't a crazy extrapolation at all.

He came into the outdoor season having run 7:34 in the 3k, a huge PR, alongside a 3:51 mile, followed by a 3:32. Obviously US trials went poorly but he went into the 5k in Monaco with a 13:06 PR and no real sign that he was in any poorer fitness.

2 years ago 07/23/2023 3:52am EDT

re: Huangdi (other computer)

Huangdi (other computer) wrote:
where did this come from wrote:
Why was there a string view he was going to break 13 when season results weren’t indicating that?
This wasn't a crazy extrapolation at all.
He came into the outdoor season having run 7:34 in the 3k, a huge PR, alongside a 3:51 mile, followed by a 3:32. Obviously US trials went poorly but he went into the 5k in Monaco with a 13:06 PR and no real sign that he was in any poorer fitness.

The indoor time from several months ago is a lot less relevant than the times he has recorded in this Outdoor season leading up to this race, and if you plug those times into the calculator, one can see:

1) they generally line up;

2) they do not indicate sub-13 fitness.

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