Anyone else going to say it? About a 4 second PR by someone who just turned 30.
Hasn't had more than a season without injury in the last 10 years. She's a class act. One of the best ways to spot a doper is how the other athletes react to them.. Mageean is clearly loved by her competitors, she's clean as a whistle.
Did the hard miles, stayed the course and her year finally came round, something that might never have happened. Delighted for her!
"I came tenth in the world and I'm proud of that, I'm happy with that. I want more...
"What do I have to do?
"I can’t make up nine seconds. There’s not nine seconds in me, no matter what I do. What I do cleanly, there’s not nine seconds in me. That’s really hard..."
yep - and she's improved by four seconds, not nine :)
I went from 4.02 to 3.58 in one race
I know loads of guys who, when they went sub-4.00 for the first time, did it by quite a few seconds
You aren't elite. 3.58 for a men's 1500 isn't comparable. But if you went from 3.36 to 3.32 at age 30 in one race you might attract some glances.
I don’t really think the how the competitors react thing is significant. That comes down to more if you are likable and outgoing. Dopers can be both of those same as clean athletes. The flip side applies as well.
I don’t really think the how the competitors react thing is significant. That comes down to more if you are likable and outgoing. Dopers can be both of those same as clean athletes. The flip side applies as well.
The size of the improvement at 30 is what looks questionable. 30 is past an athlete's natural peak, which is the late twenties (according to the medical experts). So what has she been doing for the last 8 years - and what has changed to enable such a late-career jump?
Anyone else going to say it? About a 4 second PR by someone who just turned 30.
I can beat that. Norris with a 7 second PR within 2 months (4:06 to 3:59). Yes we all 'wonder' about these so called "breakthroughs"
I just looked Norris up. Her pb prior to last year was 4.10, in 2021 she ran 3.59 . Didn't realise it was such a big jump... but her 5000m went from 15.29 to 14.51. These times are a Shelby level of improvement ?
The size of the improvement at 30 is what looks questionable...what has she been doing for the last 8 years - and what has changed to enable such a late-career jump?
TL;DNR: MaGeean is the Irish Steph Twell: Teen phenom, turned pro at 18, gets hurt over and over, finally catches a break, runs up to her potential.
MaGeean really was a teen phenom. She won World Youth & Junior Silver. NB signed her when she was 18. Pretty soon after that, things went sideways. She needed ankle surgery, and ended up taking two years off. Since then, she's had a series of smaller injuries, many that kept her out of championships, or meant she wasn't 100% when she could run. She even cancelled her indoor season this January because of calf injury (then she got Covid).
You can see the trajectory of her career on these boards. She was first mention on LRC in 2008, when she was 16. She was touted as "THE NEXT SONIO O SULLIVAN." (LRC being LRC, the thread ended up being about Jordan Hasay.) After a spurt of attention when she was young, she basically disappeared from the boards. Counting this thread, she's only been mentioned 130 or so times.
I don’t really think the how the competitors react thing is significant. That comes down to more if you are likable and outgoing. Dopers can be both of those same as clean athletes. The flip side applies as well.
The size of the improvement at 30 is what looks questionable. 30 is past an athlete's natural peak, which is the late twenties (according to the medical experts). So what has she been doing for the last 8 years - and what has changed to enable such a late-career jump?
Hurt a lot over her career, changed to a new coach (Helen Clitheroe) earlier this year. Previously, athletes peaked in their twenties, but over the last decade we've seen more and more athletes at least being as good well into their thirties - Djokovic, Nadal, Williams, LeBron James, Cristiano Ronaldo, etc. Sports science, physiotherapy, recovery, have prolonged peak performance.
Loved seeing how excited the rest of the competitors were for her, especially Muir, who seemed delighted for her. Says a lot about the sort of woman Ciara must be. Fingers crossed that she can stay healthy and have a chance to keep showing us what she is capable of!
The size of the improvement at 30 is what looks questionable...what has she been doing for the last 8 years - and what has changed to enable such a late-career jump?
TL;DNR: MaGeean is the Irish Steph Twell: Teen phenom, turned pro at 18, gets hurt over and over, finally catches a break, runs up to her potential.
MaGeean really was a teen phenom. She won World Youth & Junior Silver. NB signed her when she was 18. Pretty soon after that, things went sideways. She needed ankle surgery, and ended up taking two years off. Since then, she's had a series of smaller injuries, many that kept her out of championships, or meant she wasn't 100% when she could run. She even cancelled her indoor season this January because of calf injury (then she got Covid).
You can see the trajectory of her career on these boards. She was first mention on LRC in 2008, when she was 16. She was touted as "THE NEXT SONIO O SULLIVAN." (LRC being LRC, the thread ended up being about Jordan Hasay.) After a spurt of attention when she was young, she basically disappeared from the boards. Counting this thread, she's only been mentioned 130 or so times.
A "teen phenomenon" is 12 years younger than she is now. So for more than a decade, in her prime years, she's been chronically injured? If that's so I don't see how she can fulfil her potential suddenly at 30. Injuries take an inevitable toll. I think there is a simpler and more likely explanation for the sudden jump in late-career performance.
The size of the improvement at 30 is what looks questionable. 30 is past an athlete's natural peak, which is the late twenties (according to the medical experts). So what has she been doing for the last 8 years - and what has changed to enable such a late-career jump?
Hurt a lot over her career, changed to a new coach (Helen Clitheroe) earlier this year. Previously, athletes peaked in their twenties, but over the last decade we've seen more and more athletes at least being as good well into their thirties - Djokovic, Nadal, Williams, LeBron James, Cristiano Ronaldo, etc. Sports science, physiotherapy, recovery, have prolonged peak performance.
TL;DNR: MaGeean is the Irish Steph Twell: Teen phenom, turned pro at 18, gets hurt over and over, finally catches a break, runs up to her potential.
MaGeean really was a teen phenom. She won World Youth & Junior Silver. NB signed her when she was 18. Pretty soon after that, things went sideways. She needed ankle surgery, and ended up taking two years off. Since then, she's had a series of smaller injuries, many that kept her out of championships, or meant she wasn't 100% when she could run. She even cancelled her indoor season this January because of calf injury (then she got Covid).
You can see the trajectory of her career on these boards. She was first mention on LRC in 2008, when she was 16. She was touted as "THE NEXT SONIO O SULLIVAN." (LRC being LRC, the thread ended up being about Jordan Hasay.) After a spurt of attention when she was young, she basically disappeared from the boards. Counting this thread, she's only been mentioned 130 or so times.
A "teen phenomenon" is 12 years younger than she is now. So for more than a decade, in her prime years, she's been chronically injured? If that's so I don't see how she can fulfil her potential suddenly at 30. Injuries take an inevitable toll. I think there is a simpler and more likely explanation for the sudden jump in late-career performance.
Thankfully no one cares what you think about doping…
A "teen phenomenon" is 12 years younger than she is now. So for more than a decade, in her prime years, she's been chronically injured? If that's so I don't see how she can fulfil her potential suddenly at 30. Injuries take an inevitable toll. I think there is a simpler and more likely explanation for the sudden jump in late-career performance.
Thankfully no one cares what you think about doping…
Thankfully, my opinion isn't alone. There are others who think the same way.
