Why is listening to music a hobby jogger move

Listening to music while jogging/warming up before a race is ok. But listening to music during every run is for hobby joggers.

Being a hobby jogger isn't a bad thing, it's just a term used by people who take running seriously even if they aren't pros or never will be they will still call people hobby joggers who run because they simply enjoy it. A hobby jogger could still beat a "pro" in a race in any distance.

runnersworld1 wrote:

. A hobby jogger could still beat a "pro" in a race in any distance.

This. Just this.

Studies show music improves performance.

Because instead of being fully engaged during the run, instead of running for the sake of running and being completely in tune with oneself in both body and mind, you're choosing to add a distraction bc you can't take the run on its own.

And yes, it also can improve performance by distracting you from pain and all that jazz, which is why listening to music while racing typically DQs you from receiving awards/prize money.

Probs also why hobbyjoggers get injured so often-they have no measure of what their bodies should feel like while doing what and don't know the fine distinctions between leading to possible injury pain and the pain of improvement.

Newbbbb wrote:

Because instead of being fully engaged during the run, instead of running for the sake of running and being completely in tune with oneself in both body and mind, you're choosing to add a distraction bc you can't take the run on its own.

And yes, it also can improve performance by distracting you from pain and all that jazz, which is why listening to music while racing typically DQs you from receiving awards/prize money.

Probs also why hobbyjoggers get injured so often-they have no measure of what their bodies should feel like while doing what and don't know the fine distinctions between leading to possible injury pain and the pain of improvement.

Is it more than 4% if so they should ban the vapor flys too.

I listen to music when I run to sample new albums...Don't have the luxury to listen to music any other time with work and life....So suck it h8ers.

It's okay if you listen to chariot's of fire theme on repeat

Because "serious" runners will do anything to segregate themselves from the rest of the running community in an attempt to convince themselves that what they do is any different.

Runner mentality wrote:

Because "serious" runners will do anything to segregate themselves from the rest of the running community in an attempt to convince themselves that what they do is any different.

Not a lie if you believe it I guess.

serious non-hobby jogger wrote:

It's okay if you listen to chariot's of fire theme on repeat

In High School, our track was in the football stadium. It was a newly renovated stadium with awesome A/V gear that sounded great (for football games). I had a 3200 race and put a teammate of mine in the announcer booth to play the Chariots of Fire theme during the race. We cleared it with my coach, but no one else knew about the idea.

The gun goes off and the music sounded fantastic. I was feeling good and took the pace out way too fast. The clip my buddy had was around 4 minutes of the normal theme, and then it went into a remix of the theme with a 4-on-the-floor beat under it. The beat was fresh and everyone was feeling it. A kid from a rival school started rolling on me and passed me. I tried to stay with him, but I ended up getting 2nd. It was pretty fun and the local newspaper wrote about it in the weekend prep sports roundup. Everyone was happy about it except for the AD who told my coach that he wasn't allowed to use the A/V equipment in the football stadium anymore.

Runner mentality wrote:

Because "serious" runners will do anything to segregate themselves from the rest of the running community in an attempt to convince themselves that what they do is any different.

Because consistently running 100+ mile weeks trying to hit an OTQ is substantially no different from people doing a "Couch to 5k" training plan. Get real. Running is a spectrum and so called "sub elites" have a lot more in common than the pros than they do with hobby joggers.

And before you pull out the "You're not paid to run, therefore you're the same as a hobby jogger" canard, just remember there are plenty of mediocre/average hobby joggers who can make decent money blogging etc. This doesn't make them any less of hobby joggers, it's the level of running that is the distinguishing factor here.

We have a guy who runs 80-100mpw he is slow as Phuck and we remind him that we do it better on less, and he sucks cause he has this more mileage than you so I am better mentality.

Eventually it will pay off and will run faster than you.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Eventually it will pay off and will run faster than you.

If it hasn't happened in 5 years as I've went through 2 broken ankles, 2 cases of plantar fasciitis, and psoas problems it isn't happening.

Newbbbb wrote:

Because instead of being fully engaged during the run, instead of running for the sake of running and being completely in tune with oneself in both body and mind, you're choosing to add a distraction bc you can't take the run on its own.

And yes, it also can improve performance by distracting you from pain and all that jazz, which is why listening to music while racing typically DQs you from receiving awards/prize money.

Probs also why hobbyjoggers get injured so often-they have no measure of what their bodies should feel like while doing what and don't know the fine distinctions between leading to possible injury pain and the pain of improvement.

You mean you don't love the pain? I love the pain and agony of running without music, each stride sending rows of sweet beautiful knives up my legs, that's one of the reasons why I started running with music because running without it was just simply too easy for me, got to challenge yourself you hobbyjogger.

They use ear buds to keep the scrawny annoying dudes from attempting to socialize with them.

A Serious Runner wrote:

Runner mentality wrote:

Because "serious" runners will do anything to segregate themselves from the rest of the running community in an attempt to convince themselves that what they do is any different.

Because consistently running 100+ mile weeks trying to hit an OTQ is substantially no different from people doing a "Couch to 5k" training plan. Get real. Running is a spectrum and so called "sub elites" have a lot more in common than the pros than they do with hobby joggers.

And before you pull out the "You're not paid to run, therefore you're the same as a hobby jogger" canard, just remember there are plenty of mediocre/average hobby joggers who can make decent money blogging etc. This doesn't make them any less of hobby joggers, it's the level of running that is the distinguishing factor here.

Name another sport where the so called serious athletes insist on the more casual participants being labelled at hobbiests. It's not even the pros who do this, it's the non-pros. They do it because they are insecure about the fact that the rest of the population views them as no different than any other joe schmoe sunday jogger and they think they deserve to be acknowledged as a 'real runner'. The only person who cares about labels like runner vs hobby jogger, is a person who is worked up over what others think because aside from other people's perception of said labels, they mean absolutely nothing. And lol at the comment about blogs.

it doesn't matter if you do or don't. Morning runs I don't, afternoon runs I just want to get home and am tired so I usually do. If you are running 100 MPW, there's no harm in running with music sometimes.

Hard to do intense workouts listening to music and carrying a device.

But mostly older runners only had the option of bulky tape cassette players and headphones that wouldn't stay on at a fast pace so we judge younger people now.