Clayton MF Murphy is back baby!!! He wins USAs as Isaiah Harris goes pro!!

Well, Murphy was not pumping away like a toy train, he was driving off the ground. It all starts on the ground. Pumping like that makes you tired, not faster.

Try standing in place and pumping your arms, how fast do you move?

Try racing Usain Bolt without moving your arms.

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Coaching the arms in sprinting is like coaching your kicker to throw. It serves no purpose.

The arms replicate the legs not vice Versa

baking soda wrote:

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Coaching the arms in sprinting is like coaching your kicker to throw. It serves no purpose.

The arms replicate the legs not vice Versa

Aren’t you trying to coach the arms on this thread?

Baking soda notice how Bekele arm swing changes when he sprints for home.

https://youtu.be/vvqAIl_Ydiw

Reacting to the leg drive, not trying to force the legs to move faster. Starts on the ground.

Baking Soda, you're wrong, just give up...

rojo wrote:

Can someone tell me why shoe companies pay kids to go pro early? I mean I just don't get it. Worlds aen't until next year. Our sport is such a minor one, it drives me nuts.

Its really the agents driving this, Flynn is notorious for getting young athletes to go pro.

His first was Allen Webb if you recall. Flynn was the architect behind Webb over racing and ending his career early.

Agents like this care little about the athletes its all about the commission they get for the original contract and cut for each race and bonus.

Shoe companies want to get a jump on athletes now to build the portfolio prior to the rush to sign athletes next year.

Hopefully this kid finishes school and gets his degree.

ironside wrote:

rojo wrote:

Can someone tell me why shoe companies pay kids to go pro early? I mean I just don't get it. Worlds aen't until next year. Our sport is such a minor one, it drives me nuts.

A shoe company says, "We'll hurry and pull a kid out of college so we can pay him $(60,000 to 260,000) /yr. (with reductions) for a three year contract so we can sell more running shoes." I am sure the shoe company personnel who chase down future NBA guys view the shoe company guys/gals who pull track & field college kids out of college as Siberian prison guards.

Rojo is also failing to account for the competitive dynamic at work between shoe companies. They pay kids to go pro early so that they can sign them before another shoe company does. With 2 years before the next olympics it is probably in a shoe company's best interest to wait a year or two before signing any distance runners and therefore gain more information on the distance runner's potential. The problem if Nike waits then Adidas may sign him first and vice-versa. Nike and Adidas both know this so rather than wait they are both forced to sign early to avoid completely losing out on the athlete.

rojo wrote:

Can someone tell me why shoe companies pay kids to go pro early? I mean I just don't get it. Worlds aen't until next year. Our sport is such a minor one, it drives me nuts.

The fact that Worlds are next year is precisely the reason Harris (and others) should go pro this year. It is next to impossible to run an entire collegiate season and US Nationals and then come back with a great performance at Worlds (Sept-Oct 2019)

baking soda wrote:

Try standing in place and pumping your arms, how fast do you move?

This is a great point....

IF they were standing in place.

"We run with our arms, on our legs." Percy Cerutty.

baking soda wrote:

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Coaching the arms in sprinting is like coaching your kicker to throw. It serves no purpose.

The arms replicate the legs not vice Versa

I understand the theory. I know the theory regarding future NBA athletes. Eg. Hurry and sign Kyrie Irving or Klay Thompson before a competitor signs either. Shoe companies can track sales of product based on athlete endorsements by NBA athletes. I'd like to hear from those at the shoe companies regarding details of R.O.I. regarding T&F athletes. I'd like to hear from university presidents. High ranking officials at universities have expressed themselves on three year NFL policy and one & done policy regarding NBA athletes.

reud wrote:

baking soda wrote:

Try standing in place and pumping your arms, how fast do you move?

This is a great point....

IF they were standing in place.

Point is, movement starts from the ground up.

baking soda wrote:

reud wrote:

This is a great point....

IF they were standing in place.

Point is, movement starts from the ground up.

no, it's about at the same time (arm swing and leg drive)

and I don't try to get my legs to run faster, I drive my arms faster to increase cadence. We relax our wrists and our face and that relaxes the whole stride.You're simply wrong.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Baking soda notice how Bekele arm swing changes when he sprints for home.

https://youtu.be/vvqAIl_Ydiw

Wow, Bekele turned his like 3-4 times in the home stretch. Someone alert the brojos and the letsrun turning head police.

epicTCK wrote:

baking soda wrote:

Point is, movement starts from the ground up.

no, it's about at the same time (arm swing and leg drive)

and I don't try to get my legs to run faster, I drive my arms faster to increase cadence. We relax our wrists and our face and that relaxes the whole stride.You're simply wrong.

Well, you can swing your arms like a bird, you ain't going nowhere until you push off the ground, keep telling yourself otherwise all you want.

You swing your arms to prevent rotation of the torso, not to propel yourself froward.

You forgot that your first post in this whole thread was trying to coach Harris on his arm usage, and then you posted a quote denouncing such coaching. Do you not see how laughable your input has been?