UC Davis New Coach???

Out of control wrote:

I guess just wanted everyone to feel even worse about their season, add some more stress during finals and make himself look worse?

Do you know if this is just distance/xc cuts or is it other aspects of track? Just men or women too? I heard he was trying to get lots of new guys out for cross next year, including some JC transfers.

Paragraphs please!

As another former Aggie here, your writing is appalling to me, even when given some leeway for being on a forum. I have a pretty good guess who you are based on your writing. I always wanted to tell you: stop acting like an idiot, you’re better than that!

Don't care what you think about my writing. I am not going to be a literary scholar anytime soon. I do have a Masters Degree though. I may seem like an idiot to you. But at least I am honest and not a pretentious prick.

Welp, looks like the turnover train continues! From the outside it looks like the head coach isn't prioritizing distance based on the lack of marks and depth in the past few years (no one even ran the 10,000 a few years back) whereas the sprints/field seems to be doing OK. As to the cuts, I guess I can see the logic of a clean slate when the marks just aren't there. The walk-on standards that I can find show that many of the guys in uniform don't even make the marks so from a recruiting perspective it gets embarrassing. Like if you're one of those 9:20/4:20 guys, why go to a DI school with a bunch of guys who can't break 15? At least a shallow roster of guys that are at least better than your walk-on standards implies more attention to each athlete if you're trying to recruit.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ucda/sports/c-track/auto_pdf/2017-18/misc_non_event/18-Outdoor-PerformanceList.pdf

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ucda/sports/c-track/auto_pdf/2013-14/misc_non_event/WalkonStandards13.pdf

If you're one of those 4:20/9:20 guys you aren't even fast enough to walk-on. It appears that all of their distance team must have walked on when the standards weren't as difficult because only a couple of them had season bests that hit the walk-on standard. They must not be giving out scholarships on the distance side, right?

That would be my guess RE the scholarships. Those standards were from 2013-2014 and it being 2018 I'm gonna assume they relaxed the standards in practice since their top 5k/10k guy graduated HS in 2015. Beggars can't be choosers! They may also be eliminating some roster spots on cross for Title IX purposes but I don't really know how that works anymore since cross and track are the same program now (I think). I know it was 12 spots for a while, then 16 while I was there, now it's 12 again. I can't imagine going lower than 9 but who knows...

Nevin S. wrote:

If you're one of those 4:20/9:20 guys you aren't even fast enough to walk-on. It appears that all of their distance team must have walked on when the standards weren't as difficult because only a couple of them had season bests that hit the walk-on standard. They must not be giving out scholarships on the distance side, right?

I feel so bad for these athletes, to lose two coaches in a year and then nearly all of them be cut post season when they don’t have a true distance coach? That doesn’t seem right. Can someone please explain wtf is going on? Sounds like there’s a piece missing in this puzzle...

legaladvil wrote:

Hopefully they bring somebody in who doesn't break the rules and load up his boys with 800mg ibuprofen tablets

care to reveal who that was or is this a joke? the training room told me to take 800mg a couple times a day at one point but not individual tablets of 800mg, i don't even think they sell em that powerful over the counter

Why the hell???? wrote:

I feel so bad for these athletes, to lose two coaches in a year and then nearly all of them be cut post season when they don’t have a true distance coach? That doesn’t seem right. Can someone please explain wtf is going on? Sounds like there’s a piece missing in this puzzle...

Head coach doesn't give any distance scholarships? Distance coach breaks a rule and gets let go? Cross is getting cut and turned into fall track? The possibilities are endless and not mutually exclusive!

smalliftrue wrote:

legaladvil wrote:

Hopefully they bring somebody in who doesn't break the rules and load up his boys with 800mg ibuprofen tablets

care to reveal who that was or is this a joke? the training room told me to take 800mg a couple times a day at one point but not individual tablets of 800mg, i don't even think they sell em that powerful over the counter

Don’t forget the illegal foreign substances too.

Bet the new coach won't also hint at cutting injured runners... Also hope the Head Track coach doesn't complain to the distance team all the time to the distance team that they are letting the team down after firing their coach....

I wasn’t joking either

Wow a coach gave someone the equivalent of 4 Advil ? They should shut the entire athletic program down at UCD for such a transgression.

If nothing else that’s laziness. Athletes can go buy Advil or Ibuprofen and take 800mgs worth about 50x over for maybe $5-10

“Prescription strength ibuprofen” gives a placebo effect to ignorant patients thinking they’re getting something out of the ordinary.

Who’s on the short list to fill the distance coach position? Who would be a good replacement for Sheffield?

Out of control wrote:

Now they cut half the athletes from team yesterday during finals week. No they couldn't do it weeks ago and no they couldn't wait a few days. This whole team is a mess. They need to can everyone associated with it and start over.

Sounds like you were one of the runners who got cut, and now you're whining about it on letsrun... The head coach probably made the right move here.

Out of control wrote:

I wasn’t joking either

So what were the illegal foreign substances?

pacrunner wrote:

Out of control wrote:

Now they cut half the athletes from team yesterday during finals week. No they couldn't do it weeks ago and no they couldn't wait a few days. This whole team is a mess. They need to can everyone associated with it and start over.

Sounds like you were one of the runners who got cut, and now you're whining about it on letsrun... The head coach probably made the right move here.

Do you know anything about the distance program at UC Davis?

Yeah is there anyone who can give a summary of what is going on here? Pretty confusing if you don’t already know the story

Nolan Ryan Advil wrote:

Wow a coach gave someone the equivalent of 4 Advil ? They should shut the entire athletic program down at UCD for such a transgression.

If nothing else that’s laziness. Athletes can go buy Advil or Ibuprofen and take 800mgs worth about 50x over for maybe $5-10

“Prescription strength ibuprofen” gives a placebo effect to ignorant patients thinking they’re getting something out of the ordinary.

Who’s on the short list to fill the distance coach position? Who would be a good replacement for Sheffield?

For all we know the coach didn't know this about advil. Giving out prescription meds that can be gotten OTC is a totally unnecessary risk for him to take of course, and if it's what got him canned I'm glad it happened because no one dumb enough to take that risk should be a coach at a UC.