said88 wrote:
No need to apologize wrote:
For sure it's about the PBs going into the competition. This was Coedeppe's point: Manangoi has the weaker PB (going into the meet, not career PB which we surely can't know at the moment) than Cheruiyot and still beat him - so there something very fishy is going on.
1977: Wessinghage was 8th fastest all-time and has had a 3+ seconds betterPB than Ovett - Ovett won. And now?
1983: Scott has a Mile PB of 3:47.69 and even his 1500m PB was better than Cram's 3:33.66
1988: The list was about 1500m, but also for 800m it would be correct. Cruz' PB was 3.05 seconds faster than Ereng's, but Ereng won (1500m: Elliott has had the better PB than Rono)
1989: Coe has had the better PB
1992: Birir has had better PB than Souleiman
2000: correct ...and 2.12 in the 1500m...
2006: correct!
Seriously Saidiopede, you think it's me twisting facts and numbers??? I'll only deal with your first two 'examples, I've got better things to do with my time. Wessinghage hadn't beaten Ovett 3 weeks before the World Cup, nor lost to him in a major final earlier that season. More importantly,Ovett was moving up from the 400/800 in 77, and he wasn't the training partner of Wessinghage. Scott was how many years older than Cram? How many times did Scott beat Cram in 83? Manangoi and Tim basically ran a time trial together at Monaco and Tim was over a second faster.
There's a reason why you're a Turkish welfare scrounger in Germany.