Nick Willis Miler Method Boot Camp

I'm in it now. It's good. Definitely worth the $72.

It gives you structure, accountability and keeps you from overdoing it in between sessions. He and his wife obviously know what they're doing with the mile!

is it a generic plan, or is it tailered for different runners? like someone doing 20 mpw vs 60 mpw? what about some one that has a lot of endurance vs someone that is speedy and has poor endurance?

Do you get to watch movies after training?

Revisiting this -- does anyone else have any feedback on Willis' Miler Method bootcamp? Thinking of working on the mile after I get through this effing marathon I have tomorrow.

I attended the 6-week program a year ago last July-September. It was worthwhile. I knew going in that 6 weeks was too short to see a major improvement, but I was curious to see what the training would be like. In hindsight, I would do it again.

I'm an odd case in that everyone else was a distance runner trying to improve their speed. I was a 400m guy trying to improve my endurance. Quite a few people had PRs in the mile at the end of 6 weeks. I did not improve at all... I ran 6:52... the same that I ran earlier in the summer.

I emailed Nick and Sierra for their suggestions after my poor time trial. Even though my 6-weeks was up, they gave me a different routine based on my progress so far and how I had responded to their program. After four more weeks using their new suggestions, I improved my mile time to 6:36. It would have been great to have those new workouts 6 weeks earlier, but individuals respond differently to stimulus. I'm glad I found something new that works for me.

I did learn a couple of new approaches to tempo workouts and a new approach to mile training. I'll use one of the workouts... maybe two... going forward. That might not sound like it's worth $72, but a second here and there can really make the difference. As I said, the distance runners fared better with his initial program than I did.

I would have preferred to have a longer program... and I think he offers one, but it didn't meet my training schedule for the 400m to break so close to national competition to do several weeks of mile training.

Thanks for the info, good stuff. Did you have to change your mileage to fit his plan?

A mile in 6:52? How old are you - 75?

I don't want to offend you, but at that very low level you are really untrained and every training program should lead to a fast improvement.

Like u r that good

Partridge wrote:

A mile in 6:52? How old are you - 75?

I don't want to offend you, but at that very low level you are really untrained and every training program should lead to a fast improvement.

+1

Sounds like a troll post, claiming being a national competitor in the 400m but struggling to run a 6:30 mile. Sure, mostly fast-twitch but even Bolt was considered to be able to run a mile in 4:20-5:00 with some specific training.

Ashton Eaton, decathlete with BMI similar to sprinters/Bolt and mostly FT fibers, ran ~4:15 in the mile as pure fast-twitch athlete (after a hard two-day competition).

I don't even wanna calculate his mile speed in % of his 400m speed, if it's something like 46.That must be around 2x slower? Haha.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

Partridge wrote:

A mile in 6:52? How old are you - 75?

I don't want to offend you, but at that very low level you are really untrained and every training program should lead to a fast improvement.

+1

Sounds like a troll post, claiming being a national competitor in the 400m but struggling to run a 6:30 mile. Sure, mostly fast-twitch but even Bolt was considered to be able to run a mile in 4:20-5:00 with some specific training.

Ashton Eaton, decathlete with BMI similar to sprinters/Bolt and mostly FT fibers, ran ~4:15 in the mile as pure fast-twitch athlete (after a hard two-day competition).

I don't even wanna calculate his mile speed in % of his 400m speed, if it's something like 46.That must be around 2x slower? Haha.

Wrong again. Eaton's decathlon 1500m PR is 4:14.48. His indoor 1000 PR is 2:32.67, and 400m PR is 45.00.

Crazy he ran 45.00 in the decathalon, he also ran 1:55 in the 800.

brion wrote:

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

+1

Sounds like a troll post, claiming being a national competitor in the 400m but struggling to run a 6:30 mile. Sure, mostly fast-twitch but even Bolt was considered to be able to run a mile in 4:20-5:00 with some specific training.

Ashton Eaton, decathlete with BMI similar to sprinters/Bolt and mostly FT fibers, ran ~4:15 in the mile as pure fast-twitch athlete (after a hard two-day competition).

I don't even wanna calculate his mile speed in % of his 400m speed, if it's something like 46.That must be around 2x slower? Haha.

Wrong again. Eaton's decathlon 1500m PR is 4:14.48. His indoor 1000 PR is 2:32.67, and 400m PR is 45.00.

I was talking about the LRC poster's ratio of 400m to 1600m, not about Eaton's. He claimed to be a national level competitor in the 400m, which is 44-46s depending on his country, but struggling to break 6:36 in the mile. That's just not possible with that amount of 400m speed. 6:36 mile is 98s per 400m, assuming he has 46s 400m ability, that's more than twice as slow. That's like saying van Niekerk couldn't break a 6:10 mile when running all-out, which is ridiculous. Even if he would only close in a 50, which is basically jogging pace for him, it would allow him to run so slowly in the first 3 laps that he can run much faster than 6:10 with ease.

Now to Eaton - he ran 4:14 1500m after a DECATHLON (the toughest 2-day competition in the world, save for some ultra triathlons), which means during that moment, he was at least in 4:07 1500m shape without the hard competition prior to the race. But that was training for sprints, strength and power and barely doing any endurance training for the 1500m. So his potential, if he would actually care and train for the 1500m, was more like 3:45-3:50. So you have a guy that's heavy and has 45.00 400m speed running a ~4:10 mile if he trains for it. That's why I said, if the previous poster really is a national competitor in the 400m, it can't be true that he is struggling to break 6:30 in the mile, with or without Willis' training system.

Pretty sure he's said in the past, he's a national competitor in the 60+ are range. Given this, his mile PRs sound reasonable.

fisky = masters runner wrote:

Pretty sure he's said in the past, he's a national competitor in the 60+ are range. Given this, his mile PRs sound reasonable.

Yea that makes a lot of sense. Do you happen to know his current 400m times? Then we could put it in relation to his mile times that he tried to improve.

Okay. You wrote that Eaton ran a 4:15 mile. That speaks to your decathlon knowledge.

Hi my name is amar i'm from india ... i have a test for job in police department and need to run a mile under 5 mins to get a job and this is last chance for me my age is 27 they recruit people under age of 28... i tried to purchase training program of nick willis in 2022 but they are not taking any registrations at present... can you please send me the training of nick willis please 🙏

You don’t need Nick’s training. A 5:00 mile is pretty fast for a non specialist. What’s your personal best right now ?