The oldest human to ever live, Jeanne Calment age 122, smoked cigarettes for over 100 years.

It isn't one or the other. It may be, but it doesn't have to be.

Calment woulda lived to see 146 if not for the cigs. Prove me wrong.

As a Native American you should know smoking is used to preserve meat. Has your culture really been lost to this degree?

It is 1 or the other because she personally contributed her longevity to the cigarettes, which is something that many other people do not do anymore.

A pound of pemmican short of a full parfleche wrote:

As a Native American you should know smoking is used to preserve meat. Has your culture really been lost to this degree?

I am Indian. Not native American.

And in my tribe all I've ever heard was that smoking was for peace pipes. For example, if you are sitting next to your future father in law, he will have you smoke with him so there is no lies between both parties.

the430miler wrote:

It is 1 or the other because she personally contributed her longevity to the cigarettes, which is something that many other people do not do anymore.

How would she know it was cigarettes? Simple answer for a simpleton like you - she wouldn't.

Since she is the one who lived that long, I would say she has full scientific authority on the issue.

the430miler wrote:

A pound of pemmican short of a full parfleche wrote:

As a Native American you should know smoking is used to preserve meat. Has your culture really been lost to this degree?

I am Indian. Not native American.

And in my tribe all I've ever heard was that smoking was for peace pipes. For example, if you are sitting next to your future father in law, he will have you smoke with him so there is no lies between both parties.

From Delhi?

The oldest living WWII vet will be 112 on Friday. He's attributed his longevity to cigars and whiskey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Arvin_Overton

the430miler wrote:

Since she is the one who lived that long, I would say she has full scientific authority on the issue.

So in your mind, having success in a particular area makes one an expert in that field? And yet you hold yourself out as an expert on training...

Used properly, tobacco can warp time and space.

does not compute wrote:

the430miler wrote:

Since she is the one who lived that long, I would say she has full scientific authority on the issue.

So in your mind, having success in a particular area makes one an expert in that field? And yet you hold yourself out as an expert on training...

99 percent of human beings will never run a 430 mile like I have. That makes me a mental expert in middle distance training and racing.

the430miler wrote:

How do you explain this? Did she have a genetic advantage for tobacco? Or is it just bullcrap that tobacco is bad for your health? It's either 1 or the other.

lack of stress, moderate exercise, financial freedom, and great genetics.

She smoked but didn’t abuse her body. She exercised, but didn’t go overboard like marathons. She ate well. Her husbands, family, and the state provided for her so financial stress was non-existent. Her genetics were the icing on the cake.

Never underestimate the power of this combination.

the430miler wrote:

does not compute wrote:

So in your mind, having success in a particular area makes one an expert in that field? And yet you hold yourself out as an expert on training...

99 percent of human beings will never run a 430 mile like I have. That makes me a mental expert in middle distance training and racing.

But aren't people who run faster than you even greater experts, then?

I will agree with that statement, and also add that anyone slower than me, including world class coaches, do not have my level of knowledge and expertise.

Also, we have had heated discussion on these boards before about how track/xc coaches who have never ran 1 day in their life will never be as good as coaches who have been on the battlefield before. I stand by that statement with my effing life. If you personally were not a competitive runner in high school and college, then it should be ILLEGAL for you to be a running coach of any kind.

the430miler wrote:

I will agree with that statement, and also add that anyone slower than me, including world class coaches, do not have my level of knowledge and expertise.

Also, we have had heated discussion on these boards before about how track/xc coaches who have never ran 1 day in their life will never be as good as coaches who have been on the battlefield before. I stand by that statement with my effing life. If you personally were not a competitive runner in high school and college, then it should be ILLEGAL for you to be a running coach of any kind.

and Gags.

Do your homework, son.

Remember the kid who ran the 5-flat mile in fourth grade at your school? He was an outlier. So is Jeanne. You aren't, because you didn't run five in fourth, and smoke for 100 years.

Simple.

There is no trick, no fountain of youth, no thing you won't believe despite click-baiters abusing the heck out of this term. All there is, is mitigation of risk.

the430miler wrote:

I will agree with that statement, and also add that anyone slower than me, including world class coaches, do not have my level of knowledge and expertise.

Also, we have had heated discussion on these boards before about how track/xc coaches who have never ran 1 day in their life will never be as good as coaches who have been on the battlefield before. I stand by that statement with my effing life. If you personally were not a competitive runner in high school and college, then it should be ILLEGAL for you to be a running coach of any kind.

This is the trouble with people pushing the autism equals genius equation.

Some people are autistic and smart and others are not.

The ww2 vet says numerous times in the news documentary about him that he has never inhaled and thinks smoking is bad, that being said I watched a documentary recently on nazis still Alive from ww2, I was astonished that all these 95 plus year old guys drank whiskey how they did , I truly think the thinning of the blood that drinking booze provides does help people live longer.

She would have lived to 150 had she not smoked.

But seriously, French cigarettes are very different from what we have in the US. She was also very active, riding her bike every day until she was 100. Genes really are the greatest factor in longevity. But for those who do not have the best genes, staying away from too many cigs, booz, etc. is always a good idea.