The Official Sage Canaday Boston Marathon OTQ Thread

Spotted wrote:

spot the jogger wrote:

There their they're... yeah, I didn't proof read, sorry.

A DNF by a self-hyping, overhyped, hyper jogger with an ultra large, ultra jogging ultra crowd of ultra blog readers about an over hyped display of ultra-mediocaty should be ultra-embarrassing to both the mediocre talent and the sheep that follow.

Dude claims how ultras are a different beast taking internal fortitude and preparation and gear and toughness to deal with mountains and snow and rain and wind and elevation.

....meanwhile ultra dude goes home devastated because it was raining and windy and 44 degrees. Wasn't Hardrock snowing and raining and 28 degrees. For 100 miles??

A better question isnt why Sage DNF'd but why so many sheople still follow him?

Who are you in real life bro?

today was his best chance ever. and he DNFs. wrote:

I guarantee you I have run more competitive races than you (both quality and quantity). And by the way, I have never kept a single one of my finishers medals. To DNF is to be mentally weak, and this has nothing to do with being manly (I mean, look at Des today!). It has everything to do with not getting something done that you set out to do. From your first DNF onwards, a DNF will always be an option.

Again, I exclude injuries.

His ONLY goal was to OTC, he didn't set out to come top 10 at Boston. The weather made sure he wasn't going to get done what he "set out to do". Is it mentally weak to know when it's over? Finishing no matter what damage you cause or how far back you place is important to you, that's your issue, not other peoples. Doesn't sounds like mental toughness, it sounds like insecurity. It's not mentally weak to know when your bashing your head against a wall with nothing to gain. But, all of that doesn't matter, he specifically said he dropped out because he ditched his jacket too soon and was hypothermic. In Ultra's, like UTMB, he is required to take a back pack and carry extra gear and there are aid stations where you can get new cloths. If it gets cold he has plenty of opportunities to put on warm cloths in an ultra. He didn't have that here. Here he was just another guy racing with low body fat who was getting too cold. His moment of mental weakness was ditching his jacket.

When I ran in college we didn't get finisher medals, what school did you run for?

he only entered boston because he knew damn well the best chance he has of getting the time was a tail wind

+10..only thing wrong with sage today was between his ears. I've been a follower of Sage for a few years and believe he is a wonderful ambassador for the sport, but today, I refuse to fanboy support a DNF. For a guy that has specialized in MT Ultras since 2012, and from a runner who braved intense conditions through the Alps amongst a 105 mile race, even with a sub par finish to his standard, today was a pure quit due to missing the OTQ. I can't support that, and only in running do you see so many excuses on why this was a good move. I really do wish him well and hope he rebounds strong on the roads or in the mts, but many of you are delusional hyping a DNF in spite of a serious injury to be a solid move.

You got to know when to hold 'em. Know when to fold 'em. Know when to walk away. And know when to run.

I personally love watching Sages videos. There’s not a lot of running content out there and the dude consistently produces quality stuff that keeps the running community informed, entertained, and interested. The fact that all of you that are being negative here are even on this thread shows that the dudes commitment to his passion is interesting and relevant to you.

I would agree, bailing either prior to the race or prior to mile 18 would’ve been the best move in retrospect but maybe he felt some pressure to at least try it or wanted to try. No one knew these times would be THAT slow.

The money Sage will be making from coaching and his YouTube will trump (if it doesn’t already) his sponsorships in Ultras. He is making a living off of running which 90% of would dream of regardless of his talent and where he places.

Good on him for dedicating himself to his content and his passion - his 100k subscribers will be 200k and continue to rise and will make him more valuable to any sponsor that wants to tap into him - not to mention the funnel he is creating for himself and his girls coaching business. Anyone with a business sense knows he’s doing things right here. This is some of the shittiest weather they’ve seen in Boston. Sucks, and couldn’t have done anything about it. Drop out prior to race, drop at mile 10, 18 - whatever. Tough to put ourselves in his shoes. Sage, if you’re reading this, keep doing you man you’re killing it!

I lost respect and stopped following him when I heard he ebayd off his Black Canyon 100KM 1st place reward. I guess he didn't have a good reason for why he did it. Claimed he "sells a lot his trophies". There is a podcast about the whole thing. I guess karma is a b*tch

I support this post. Sage, keep being you in your videos. Not many people have the courage to humble themselves like you do. It would be naive to think that the people who are successful do nothing but produce positive results. The fact that you share both your successes and failures reflects the reality of life and that's what makes you unique.

karmaisab*tch wrote:

I lost respect and stopped following him when I heard he ebayd off his Black Canyon 100KM 1st place reward. I guess he didn't have a good reason for why he did it. Claimed he "sells a lot his trophies". There is a podcast about the whole thing. I guess karma is a b*tch

Bill Rodgers and the 70s dudes used to do the same thing, except they went to pawn shops.

sagefan11 wrote:

I support this post. Sage, keep being you in your videos. Not many people have the courage to humble themselves like you do. It would be naive to think that the people who are successful do nothing but produce positive results. The fact that you share both your successes and failures reflects the reality of life and that's what makes you unique.

+1

Keep keepin it real, Sage

First off this is a lie. I did not eBay off my Black Canyon 100km award. (Or sell any "finisher medals" for a profit for that matter). I admit I'm not a material guy though. Sandi and I share a very small apartment in Boulder and we don't like clutter. We try to get rid of stuff. It is true that I gave away my Black Canyon 100km Trophy though (to the local Goodwill). I've also donated a lot of my "finisher medals" like my first Boston Marathon finisher medal (from 2010) to the charity Medals4Medal...which I donated personally to a sick kid in hospital.

karmaisab*tch wrote:

I lost respect and stopped following him when I heard he ebayd off his Black Canyon 100KM 1st place reward. I guess he didn't have a good reason for why he did it. Claimed he "sells a lot his trophies". There is a podcast about the whole thing. I guess karma is a b*tch

sorry typo there *MedalsForMettle

WOAH BROOOOOO, Sage Canaday commented on a thread of mine! F YEAH! Let's reach a 100 replies guys, my mission in life is completed almost! You planning on trying to OTQ before you start your summer ultra season Sage? Props for giving it a shot regardless of the sh!te weather in Boston today man

John Utah wrote:

Weird1 wrote:

Weird how the guy has such a following despite his consistent crashes and burns in high profile races

Couldn't even finish Boston Marathon... and then places in 50th place at UTMB (got smoked by lots of non-pros who have full time jobs & families, etc..

Not that hard to understand. He generates lots of entertaining and helpful content. He's not the best of the best, but he's good enough to be credible. People like following his life, lifestyle and journey. He's a representative for a "running/active/healthy-living lifestyle". Competition is a part, but by far not the most important part. The journey is the reward.

Exactly right. Sage isnt a professional runner, he is a professional podcast/blogger.

He is kind of like pewdiepie or Jake Paul, he is entertainment.

I take back my post. I've since read, through his Instagram, that he was feeling hypothermic after shedding his jacket, which prompted him to drop out.

Just MO wrote:

I take back my post. I've since read, through his Instagram, that he was feeling hypothermic after shedding his jacket, which prompted him to drop out.

Runners who did well, kept their jackets on. Yuki was probably the only one who could run having very little clothes on but he is a some kind of a navy seal type of a runner.

Actually I thought that Sage would do well in bad conditions because he has run those trail ultras. The weather is not so great in the mountains. So the time would have not been so great but he had potential to achieve a very good position. He will probably never have this kind of an opportunity again.

Tough guys and ladies did well yesterday.

Baltsu wrote:

Just MO wrote:

I take back my post. I've since read, through his Instagram, that he was feeling hypothermic after shedding his jacket, which prompted him to drop out.

Runners who did well, kept their jackets on. Yuki was probably the only one who could run having very little clothes on but he is a some kind of a navy seal type of a runner.

Actually I thought that Sage would do well in bad conditions because he has run those trail ultras. The weather is not so great in the mountains. So the time would have not been so great but he had potential to achieve a very good position. He will probably never have this kind of an opportunity again.

Tough guys and ladies did well yesterday.

He's used to tough conditions and high mileage, but not sub freezing temps, 35+ mph headwinds, and freezing rain for hours on end. Different animal. He'll have plenty of other chances to get an OTQ.

Sage, you ever think of trying to OTQ through a sub 65 half? I know speed isn't your strength so to speak but based on that 15k you did, with more specific training don't you think you can hold 3:06/km for 6 more km?