Nike Vaporfly's- no different than the evolution from wooden poles/raquets/clubs to modern materials

Can't let it rest, huh Nike? Can't afford to buy advertising?

So I guess we should go back to bamboo poles (for vaulting) and cinder/dirt tracks? Should we start requiring all elite marathoners to run barefoot? The only athletics event that's limited design advantages is the javelin, and that's only because they were nearly throwing it into the stands.

You use “ ‘s “ to imply ownership. There is no apostrophe when using the plural form of Vaporfly.

Vaporfly love. wrote:

Tired of reading the garbage about Nike Vaporfly's being cheating. It's no different than the evolution from wooden poles/raquets/clubs to what exists today. Nike invented a better shoe with better materials, plain and simple. Other companies are behind the curve now.

You cannot play some sports without a racquet or club, so it totally makes sense to improve upon necessary equipment given everyone has the chance to use them. In those cases, the winner still has to be the best and has no shortcuts available.

Running is completely different. It can and has existed without the use of technology, and in nearly all cases, there is a performance PENATLY for using beefier shoes. The VF is letting people overcome this penalty while still being able to take a detour around natural, proper biomechanics and lower leg strength. Also, running is often man vs. the clock. Sure, the field would be level if everyone used the VF, but the integrity of the sport is still compromised because runners will be running faster times than they are natural capable of.

Just because a situation seems similar doesn’t mean it’s the exact same.

if you like shoes with spring plates you are gonna love the generation of shoes with wheels

apparently the IAAF just isn't going to bother enforcing rule 143 so why stop with springs for 4% when wheels will give 40%

ever see an inline skate marathon? they are actually pretty amazing to watch, forget sub2, try sub1

but I want to see someone roll up to a running marathon in inline skates and laugh at the angry vaporfly people

www.youtube.com/embed/PQLkN3H0Ozw?rel=0

Everyone has a chance to use the Vaporfly’s, just like every company has a chance to improve the materials in their shoes too. Nike evolved the equipment, and it’s no different than the equipment improvements in other sports to jump/hit/swing higher and further.

Yo would you guys please fix your supply issues? Thx

go on, next you should insist Nike doesn't call the device inside vaporfly and zoomfly a spring

www.iaaf.org/news/news/iaaf-council-introduces-rule-regarding-techni

3200y5000 wrote:

The only athletics event that's limited design advantages is the javelin, and that's only because they were nearly throwing it into the stands.

Show up to a sanctioned track race with 12 spikes in your shoes and let me know how javelin's the only event with design limitations...

IAAF COMPETITION RULES 2018-2019

Shoes

2. Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.

The purpose of shoes for competition is to give protection and

stability to the feet and a firm grip on the ground. Such shoes,

however, must not be constructed so as to give athletes any unfair

assistance or advantage. Any type of shoe used must be reasonably

available to all in the spirit of the universality of athletics.

Note (i): Adapting a shoe to suit the characteristic of a particular

athlete’s foot is permitted if made in accordance with the general

principles of these Rules.

Note (ii): Where evidence is provided to the IAAF that a type of shoe

being used in competition does not comply with the Rules or the

spirit of them, it may refer the shoe for study and if there is

non-compliance may prohibit such shoes from being used in

competition.

Number of Spikes

3. The sole and heel of the shoes shall be so constructed as to provide

for the use of up to 11 spikes. Any number of spikes up to 11 may be

used but the number of spike positions shall not exceed 11.

Dimensions of Spikes

4. That part of each spike which projects from the sole or the heel shall

not exceed 9mm except in the High Jump and Javelin Throw, where

it shall not exceed 12mm. The spike must be so constructed that it

will, at least for the half of its length closest to the tip, fit through a

square sided 4mm gauge. If the track manufacturer or the stadium

operator mandates a lesser maximum, this shall be applied.

Note: The surface must be suitable for accepting the spikes

permitted under this Rule.

The Sole and the Heel

5. The sole and/or heel may have grooves, ridges, indentations or

protuberances, provided these features are constructed of the same or

similar material to the basic sole itself.

In the High Jump and Long Jump, the sole shall have a maximum

thickness of 13mm and the heel in High Jump shall have a

maximum thickness of 19mm. In all other events the sole and/or heel

may be of any thickness.

Note: The thickness of the sole and heel shall be measured as the

distance between the inside top side and the outside under side,

including the above-mentioned features and including any kind or

form of loose inner sole.

Inserts and Additions to the Shoe

6. Athletes may not use any appliance, either inside or outside the shoe,

which will have the effect of increasing the thickness of the sole

above the permitted maximum, or which can give the wearer any

advantage which he would not obtain from the type of shoe

described in the previous paragraphs.

zoomzoomzoom wrote:

go on, next you should insist Nike doesn't call the device inside vaporfly and zoomfly a spring

www.iaaf.org/news/news/iaaf-council-introduces-rule-regarding-techni

It's not a spring. It's a carbon fiber plate, like they use in track spikes except embedded in foam. They aren't illegal, will never be banned, and any athlete or other company are welcome to evolve their equipment to use same or better materials. To ban them they'd have to ban track spikes too.

Vaporfly love. wrote:

Tired of reading the garbage about Nike Vaporfly's being cheating. It's no different than the evolution from wooden poles/raquets/clubs to what exists today. Nike invented a better shoe with better materials, plain and simple. Other companies are behind the curve now.

Hey Nike shill,

Please give examples of runners setting world records with these "unfair advantage" shoes. Don't believe there are any.

Thanks,

Blowjos #1 fan

urstupid wrote:

You use “ ‘s “ to imply ownership. There is no apostrophe when using the plural form of Vaporfly.

Could you technically be allowed to rollerbade a marathon and claim that the rollerblades were just advanced footwear which transmitted your energy better?

Must be a greengrocer

marginal gains wrote:

Could you technically be allowed to rollerbade a marathon and claim that the rollerblades were just advanced footwear which transmitted your energy better?

No.