The current state of marriage is the reason why dating is so difficult.

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Women/men interaction in workplace is nutty.

Look at Hope Hicks.

Beautiful woman. For some reason has no other ways (OK, Internet dating sucks) to meet a guy, so hooks up with twice-divorced woman-abuser she works with? Some sort of power trip or what.

Same with that Strzok guy and his paramour. Is your job your everything?

Another obvious problem is that child-rearing is disassociated to marriage for various reasons, being taken over by the State entities (e.g. compulsory schooling, nanny government). Reducing incentives to bond, in all directions.

Anyway, dating is a maybe 100-year old invention (less for lower classes), and by now seems to have fulfilled its dire warnings when it came about.

Women and men make money now, so it changes the landscape. Both make less money, as the labour market supply shifts the wages to a lower level, and marriages often involve cohabiting to save money. Also, both have independent lives with full designs to make their lives fun (i.e., sex, for adults) before marrying.

Our expectations of what marriage is supposed to be are childish. We think if we meet someone, fall in love and marry that, that person is going to take care of all our needs, be there at every point and put to end any problems or loneliness we may feel.

We marry expecting someone else to make us happy, instead of making our own selves happy and THEN marrying.

Many people marry without realizing that their happiness is their own responsibility and if you aren’t happy there is on one on earth who can fix that problem but yourself.

goooogoo wrote:

Women and men make money now, so it changes the landscape. Both make less money, as the labour market supply shifts the wages to a lower level, and marriages often involve cohabiting to save money. Also, both have independent lives with full designs to make their lives fun (i.e., sex, for adults) before marrying.

This was all part of the plan. Removing mothers from children under its guise was key too.

In a marriage, a person’s role will change. At times, they will be in control of major issues, at other times their spouse will be in control of major issues. I see an unwillingness to give over control to each other. It is called mutual submission and in my experience, I see very few people willing to yield control to their spouse. It is a “my way or the highway” mentality that is destroying marriages and leaving people with nothing but their need to be control freaks.

People are too quick to seek comfort somewhere else if things aren’t working out in their marriage. Declining morals and the skewed belief that straying outside the marriage is justifiable if your needs aren’t being met is devastating to a marriage.

Very few marriages recover from infidelity and many people end up alone with the realization that looking outside the marriage to solve problems only adds to their problems.

Read the article and judge for yourself. Same-sex marriage is causing less opposite marriages and more abortions!

If we abandon the Bible’s teaching on marriage and just make up new definitions as we go, then why couldn’t marriage be redefined in other ways? Why couldn't it be more than two people, for example? Why couldn't it be a temporary rather than a lifelong commitment? There’s a logical slippery slope from same sex marriage to polygamy, temporary marriages, and other corrupt practices, because the same wrong thinking underlies these ideas—that people rather than the Creator have the authority to decide what marriage is. Sadly, once the definition of marriage is separated from the Creator’s design, it becomes so flexible that it begins to lose any significant meaning. Indeed, many homosexual activists have admitted that their real goal is to destroy the institution of marriage altogether. They realize that championing same-sex marriage works toward undermining the norms of marriage (like monogamy, permanence and exclusivity) and ultimately even the very concept of marriage itself.

But healthy societies are built on healthy families. The more we move away from the biblical teaching on marriage, the more we’ll have broken homes, because other arrangements simply do not work as well as God’s design. Logic indicates that the undermining of marriage will lead to an increase in cohabitation, divorce, single parenting, abortion, etc., and various studies help to confirm this. The weakening of marriage will place a burden on society as a whole, because others will have to step in with time, energy, and money to try to repair the damage. They will have to minister to hurting adults and help to raise the children of broken homes, and those children will be more likely to get into trouble, causing further problems. This leads to my next point.

So marry a dolphin or other creatures. Hey I love my dog. I love my cat. Why not?

Let's have a commune. Oh, wait that didn't work before.

Just be creative, I'm sure you will think of something.

Another reason why the gay marriage harms society:

The health risks are enormous to themselves and others. ◦The fact is that homosexuals do not live as long as heterosexuals due to the health risks associated with the lifestyle, and billions of dollars are spent annually in health care for them. See Statistics on HIV/AIDS and health related issues

But the HIV/AIDS epidemic is not only in the homosexual community. It has crossed over to the heterosexual community.

Whether or not you want to say that HIV/AIDS is a homosexual disease, the fact is that it is highly prevalent among the gay and lesbian community due to their great number of sex partners. The collateral damage to the rest of society, as far as health risks, cannot be denied.

So that is another reason why dating is strained. Everyone is afraid of each other for logical reasons.

Never go full retard

“But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him. So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said,

‘This at last is bone of my bones

and flesh of my flesh;

she shall be called Woman,

because she was taken out of Man.’

Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:20–25, my italics).

The message is unequivocal. Man is to be united to woman because she came from man. Man did not come from man and is not to be united to man; woman did not come from woman and is not to be united to woman. Therefore (NIV: “That is why”) male is to be united to female. Heterosexual marriage, then, is a creation ordinance

As for me I have many disabilities. It appears that I was born with them. Never the less I am required to do the best

I can with them. Agreeing with someone is not a prerequisite for loving that person. I have an addiction to pornography. That harms people I love but maybe even more so it hurts me as a man. Ultimately love wins. I wish you the very best as

I am not perfect either. I do not have all the answers either.

The Times They Are A Changin' wrote:

Churches do not as a rule discuss marriage, dating, and sex.

People do not go to church as much as they used to either.

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Discus.

True, but there are exceptions. I taught about marriage, dating and sex to my church class last week.

Almost all in my church normally attend, by the way.

Currently in the US and many other countries, so-called ‘gay marriage’ is being promoted via the media. In the secular, politically correct world we live in, the reporting of this issue is rarely balanced and dissenting views are treated as marginal. For example, at the time of writing, laws opposing homosexual behavior (or at the very least, not condoning it) in countries such as Russia and Uganda have made international headlines. One supposedly apolitical radio station here in the US called NPR (National Public Radio—it is funded by donations) described them as ‘draconian’ laws. Because legal acceptance of gay marriage is being celebrated as a victory for civil liberties, it seems as if the media is really out to shame any country, person or group who does not toe the politically correct line on this issue. So this will be an increasing challenge to churches and Christians.

teacher wrote:

The Times They Are A Changin' wrote:

Churches do not as a rule discuss marriage, dating, and sex.

People do not go to church as much as they used to either.

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Discus.

True, but there are exceptions. I taught about marriage, dating and sex to my church class last week.

Almost all in my church normally attend, by the way.

Thank you. My church has never done well with this subject. No one would choose to be a homosexual.

They would have to be a complete idiot. Also no one would choose to be blind.

I think that no book has everything we need to know about anything. Frank Turek a top evangelist

has stated this. I think we were given brains for a reason. I'm not sure what this means for homosexuals

and marriage. Yes, it seems the bible is clear but what does it mean for those experiencing blindness?

The Times They Are A Changin' wrote:

The Gay Marriage Act is not helping. (Many of my former girlfriends turned out to be lesbian.)

The current rate of divorce is probably around 60% at the moment.

All of this leads to real fear among men and women when it comes to dating.

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There is no more "can I buy you a coke," either because modern romance leads us to believe a couple must go straight to the bedroom for an all-nighter.

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Some polls have said that 70% of the time it is the woman who breaks off a relationship.

Yet it is said by many that marriage is for the woman and not something men want.

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Churches do not as a rule discuss marriage, dating, and sex.

People do not go to church as much as they used to either.

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Discus.

Keep it clean boys and girls.

Let's be clear about what we are discussing.

The Times They Are A Changin' wrote:

STSBO wrote:

I am going to assume that you are posting tongue-in-cheek.

I especially like your "I am so glad that I was raised in a great household with two great role models for parents and I just want the most kids possible to experience that."; Always a convincing argument - I had a certain experience, therefore it is the best experience and it must be what is best for everyone else.

Good job!

Read the article and judge for yourself. Same-sex marriage is causing less opposite marriages and more abortions!

I did read the article. And I did judge for myself.

And I am REALLY hoping that you are joking. That article was written to mock what you think it was written to support. Seriously, did you even read it?

Here are a few gems from the article:

"The “homosexual experience” leads to “early death”: This is the argument put forward by Mike Huckabee Policy Solutions, an advocacy group that supports the “national policy aims” of the former Arkansas governor and likely 2016 presidential candidate, and the Family Research Institute, the “anti-gay movement’s main source for…completely discredited junk science” on LGBT people, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center."

and

"The Ruth Institute, a San Diego-based group that appears to be run by one woman, Jennifer Roback Morse, and seeks to address “the lies of the Sexual Revolution,” argues that the “‘consensus’ that ‘the kids are ok’ has been manufactured by systematically excluding evidence” that they are not okay"

Seriously, dude, if you read the article and you are not joking then you are a horrifying example of the abject failure of our education system.

It's really funny that you think you know "God's design."

Thank you for the laughs.

Why is it that some people enter prison heterosexual and come out gay? Sexual orientation can be a choice and it is

a sinful choice that hurts that person and society.

Marriage equality was and is more than about allowing homosexuals the right to have sex. Their agenda is to wipe out all types of marriage except gay marriage! You do not have to go any further than elementary schools where they present Books about gay lovers to FREAKING SECOND GRADERS!!!