MIAC Track 2018

Enough with the talk, I want rock solid predictions

YoursTruely wrote:

Enough with the talk, I want rock solid predictions

400: Liban Jama

600: Liban Jama

800: Liban Jama

1000: Liban Jama

Mile: Liban Jama

3000: Liban Jama

5000: Liban Jama

Indoor track is coming up quick. From last year's indoor conference, no event (800-5k) had more than 2 returners in the top 5. That means there is a lot of places that must be filled up.

That said, some big questions for the indoor season...

1. What will DCG do at conference?? Any chance he does mile/800/DMR on Day 1 and 1000 on Day 2? Hard to bet against Donson in any race, tired or not.

2. What will be the deepest event? Last year it was the 800, even with some slower times early on. From last year, we return 4 of the top 10 in the 800, 5 of top 10 in the 1000, 4 of top 10 in mile, 4 of top 10 in 3k, and 3 of top 10 in the 5k.

3. What freshman makes the biggest impact? Last year, the only freshman who placed top 5 in any of the distance events was Barnhart from Bethel in the 3k. Will the freshman class perform better this year?

4. What other darkhorses we got for indoor? Wachter should be a top 3 favorite for the 800/1000/mile after his solid cross season.

5. Team predictions? St. Thomas is obvious favorite, but after them?

Carleton graduated Edstrom in the 1200m and there are no returners who can take his place. MIAC mid-d is deep, so Donson won’t run the DMR unless they stack it with either Mueller or Silky Wilky in the 12. I just can’t see that happening with both of them running to their strengths in the 5k and 3k.

Biggest question for indoors, who wins between Klamm and Donson in a 600m?

I gotta take Klamm. He's the MIAC record holder who will probably break 1:20 this year, but the race would be a close one...

Thoughts??

Not sure why all the people above have Supinski winning the 600 over Klamm and Klamm only winning the 400. Klamm won the 600 the past two years and has the MIAC record. Klamm is very hard to bet against as his track record shows. I think that if him and Donson raced in the 600 it would be the best race of indoor.

what about klamm wrote:

Biggest question for indoors, who wins between Klamm and Donson in a 600m?

I gotta take Klamm. He's the MIAC record holder who will probably break 1:20 this year, but the race would be a close one...

Thoughts??

Biggest question I have is why you think a hypothetical race that isn't going to happen is the biggest question. Klamm wins because Donson doesn't run it.

5-deep* super-accurate* Predictionies:

800 should be interesting. No clear standouts just like last year. Fastest indoor returners are Hatton, Krogman, Supinski(!), and Wachter. From outdoors you have to add Ebner, Jewson, and Gustafson to the mix. Supinski doesn't run it, that's most of your fast heat because I bet the other 6 do.

1k: DCG wins easy. Wachter next if he skips the 800?

Mile: DCG-HENSCHEL-GUSTAFSON-O'HARE-ANDERSON in that order don't @me.

3000: Lerdall-Ketola-Wilkinson-Anderson-???

5000: Ketola-Wilkinson-Mueller-Lerdall-Timm who am I kidding the 3k and 5k are a mess at conference 1st or 2nd 2nd or 3rd who could even guess that right now?

DMR: St Thomas upset win.

Interesting absurd hypothetical : if fatigue weren't a factor, then DCG would be the favorite in the:

800

1000

Mile

3k

5k

DMR (we all know it's mostly about the anchor)

Possibly the 600 (I would vote for Klamm, but hard to bet against the guy who was second at Nats in the 800)

Now I'm not saying that DCG is the BEST runner we've seen in the MIAC, but is has anyone else ever had this sort of range and dominance? DCG could have a strong to prohibitive chance of winning conference in SEVEN different events.

400 Kamm

600 Kamm

800 Hatton

1000 Donson

Mile Donson

3k Mueller

5k Stumbo

DMR Carleton

400: Klamm

JCG

DCG

Klamm stays on top, but this year, a different duo of brothers get on the podium. DCG getting some good speed work in before nats

600: Klamm

Supinski

Krogman

MIAC record-holder won't go down this year. It will be a tight race for the first 450, but then Klamm pulls away from Supinski. Krogman has had enough in the 800 and SMU coach wants to score in more events. He shows up in and wins the chase pack

EVENT TO WATCH AT MIAC

800: Wachter

JCG

Sandberg

The 800 is WIDE open assuming Donson chooses to stay fresh leading up to NCAAs. His brother showed immense gains in the outdoor 800 and chases down the Darkhorse from GAC for a thrilling second-place finish. Wachter hangs on for the win

1000: DCG

Hatton

Wachter

Ricks would be dumb not to put Donson in the 1000 for some really easy points. He pulls away from Hatton at on the backstretch after 650.

Mile: DCG

O'Hare

W. Anderson

Donson will break the MIAC record in the Mile gapping everyone. O'Hare comes back with the spirit of the GOAT Jovan in him. Oles score a few, but Ketola chokes and is beaten out by his teammate William

3k: PT

Silky Wilky

Barnhart

Timm is Olaf's only chance at Nats this year and he knows it. He pulls off a 10 second drop at MIAC to win it for the Oles

Barnhart has what it takes to place third splitting up the Northfield monopoly. A throws coach from St. Thomas gets ejected for intentionally running onto the homestretch.

5k: Lerdall

Mueller

Lelinga

Freshmen show up in the 5k. Lelinga runs out of the slow heat and sneaks into the top 3. Lerdall runs away with it.

DMR: St. Olaf

Bethel

Hamline

Very front heavy with deep teams that always stack this one; nothing too fancy.The pipers finally have a chance with everyone returning and a great cross season.

Team:

1. St. Thomas

2. Carleton

3. St. Olaf

Cross season told us that the Knights are deep. I think they can beat the Oles twice in a year.

There is no slow heat of the MIAC 5k.

First: No team outside of Northfield will have an event winner above 800 meters (1000 if DCG doesn't run the 800).

Second: Is there a scenario that Carleton isn't first or second in the DMR unless they totally dog it? This is going to be Carleton vs. St Olaf again and I think Carleton wins. Carleton is loaded for the DMR. Mueller, Wilkinson, Dodge, JCG, DCG, Sikes, 4-5 guys in the 400 that will run close to or under 50, Meikle, and they could maybe swing it if some of their slower distance guys get faster. The average times run on this list is about 3:10, 1:57, 50, 4:25 (give or take a few on each leg) for around a 10:20. Henschel (from the rumor mill) had some major health issue that is likely going to derail him for the next 4-6 weeks even now. He'll be starting from scratch in January. Berhe needs to finish a race. The best Olaf combo I see is Anderson, Ketola, Kirtley or Lonergan, and a sprinter. Formidable, but I'd argue not enough (especially when Carleton could put 2-3 seconds in the 400). There isn't exactly a significantly higher level of quality from what I see on the Oles side. If they both load: Anderson vs Silky Wilky. JCG (800) vs. Lonergan, Sprinter v Sprinter, DCG vs, Kirtley or Ketola or anyone. I say they're even through the first three and it's a mismatch on the anchor.

I agree with Carleton as 2nd team overall. Very solid sprinters and great distance guys. Arguably best Multi guy in conference. Field is meh but maybe they recruited well like they did in XC? I'd even argue that if the tommies underperform and Carleton nails it, Carleton could make it close. I think Tommies win either way but I see a scenario where St. Thomas doesn't clinch until after the 4x4.

Thanks for your input Carleton alum.

Worth noting klamm has the miac conference meet record in the 600 but doesn't have the fastest time ever for the MIAC. Mueller from st Thomas and Hutton both have both run sub 1:20 a few years ago. That being said klamm will in all likelihood crack 1:20 himself in the next two years if he continues to race it. Jerry is the most talented runner in the MIAC but he stays far away from the 600 this year and really would not be able to challenge Klamm here.

Both Gallardo and Fredrickson ran 1:20.00 last year as well. That record isn't exactly mind boggling, it just doesn't get run at PR pace at conference most years. Correct me if I'm wrong Klamm and Jerry have both run that as well as a fourth guy last year who I'm forgetting now. If JDCG actually raced it at conference I have no do doubt he would have 50/50 shot at winning it at the worst. Klamath very well could beat him, but it certainly wouldn't be a sure thing and either way it doesn't matter because that show down would never line up in a million years.

We still talkin bout Klamm v. Donson? Who cares. Not gonna even happen.

I want some real BOLD PREDICTIONS

Imagine thinking St Thomas isnt going to win

Burgstahler wins the 3k.

Macalester's #1 guy wins the 5k.

Bold enough, reasonable enough.

I mean at this point Id give Liban's chances to win any given event a 50/50.