HGH and Masters Athletes?

Why not just run faster? No, I'm not joking. All the masters runners I know are somewhat reticent to do pure speed work. You're still producing HGH as you get older, you don't need to supplement it, just stay healthy and train right.

????? wrote:

Just read this:

https://www.master-athlete.com/single-post/Intermittent-Fasting-for-Master-Athletes

And wondered 2 things:

1st Does fasting increase HGH?

2nd If HGH is so important why don't old athletes just take HGH, its easily available?

It's pretty pricey.

It's maybe safer to take drugs like these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermorelin

But wouldn't running faster place more demand on the tendons and ligaments? meaning more need for something like HGH?

I know in general aging American public the use of Testosterone is higher than places like Europe and id guess HGH is on a similar level

I have no problem with my tendons and ligaments and I still do the speed work but only on low mileage and biking to work and back.

Yes, if you train too hard you will get problems, but so will a much younger runner.

Obviously I'm trying to talk you out of doping, but I think I might fail. But you still won't be as competitive as I was. In other words, this problem you have, it's not your body, it's in your head.

past master wrote:

I have no problem with my tendons and ligaments and I still do the speed work but only on low mileage and biking to work and back.

Yes, if you train too hard you will get problems, but so will a much younger runner.

Obviously I'm trying to talk you out of doping, but I think I might fail. But you still won't be as competitive as I was. In other words, this problem you have, it's not your body, it's in your head.

oh no I don't want to dope at all but I was looking at anti aging methods naturally. I am interested in the fasting as life extending method.

I don't compete anymore

past master wrote:

I have no problem with my tendons and ligaments and I still do the speed work but only on low mileage and biking to work and back.

Yes, if you train too hard you will get problems, but so will a much younger runner.

Obviously I'm trying to talk you out of doping, but I think I might fail. But you still won't be as competitive as I was. In other words, this problem you have, it's not your body, it's in your head.

You cannot counter the effects of hormone deficiency by training more or by being competitive.

54435454 wrote:

past master wrote:

I have no problem with my tendons and ligaments and I still do the speed work but only on low mileage and biking to work and back.

Yes, if you train too hard you will get problems, but so will a much younger runner.

Obviously I'm trying to talk you out of doping, but I think I might fail. But you still won't be as competitive as I was. In other words, this problem you have, it's not your body, it's in your head.

You cannot counter the effects of hormone deficiency by training more or by being competitive.

But research says that fasting can offer some benefits and could these transfer to racing for instance just as 'anti-aging'

With HGH internal organs will grow, but if you are older it can fuel cancer as well. Stallone is on that stuff for years, been caught in Australia with HGH.

Possible danger wrote:

With HGH internal organs will grow, but if you are older it can fuel cancer as well. Stallone is on that stuff for years, been caught in Australia with HGH.

I don't think that will happen with sane doses. Test your IGF-1 level and take only the dose that will raise your IGF-1 to normal levels that younger people have. Younger people do not have organ growth. They have much higher IGF-1 level and HGH production.

????? wrote:

I know in general aging American public the use of Testosterone is higher than places like Europe and id guess HGH is on a similar level

Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is increasing exponentially in the U.S! Low T centers are cropping everywhere with aggressive advertising in some markets. I talk to middle-aged dudes all the time at the gym who are utilizing TRT. From dudes who just want to get "buffed" for the ladies to runners & cyclists, it seems TRT mania is everywhere! I envision a time in the future when most middle-aged competitive runners & cyclists will probably be using TRT to some degree (though it will be kept quiet & not openly discussed).

54435454 wrote:

past master wrote:

I have no problem with my tendons and ligaments and I still do the speed work but only on low mileage and biking to work and back.

Yes, if you train too hard you will get problems, but so will a much younger runner.

Obviously I'm trying to talk you out of doping, but I think I might fail. But you still won't be as competitive as I was. In other words, this problem you have, it's not your body, it's in your head.

You cannot counter the effects of hormone deficiency by training more or by being competitive.

Hormone deficiency? Who has that?

I see guys all the time in their late 40s-to-mid-50s who are clearly using hormone therapy, or PEDs, or something. You know, the fellows who are way strong, lean, slightly aggressive, you can see them from a mile away. The same jerkoffs who might have a brow lift and be super tanned. By the late 40s, the natural thing is to start to lose some muscle mass, add some fat, postural strength lessens, men mellow out a bit, have a bit less energy. When I see the buff guy with low fat and he's edgy and aggressive, it's obvious.

As a middle-ager who prefers to age naturally, fuuuck you pathetic old-timers who are doped.

The only way to extend your life is to say the Sinner's Prayer and to accept Christ as ruler of your life.

MAGA

[quote]????? wrote:

But wouldn't running faster place more demand on the tendons and ligaments? meaning more need for something like HGH?/quote]What's all the hoopla with this "GHRP-2" substance? It supposedly stimulates the natural production of GH. It's supposedly safer than taking synthetic HGH, so I wonder why it's banned by WADA? 🤔

https://www.evolutionary.org/ghrp-2-profile

past master wrote:

I have no problem with my tendons and ligaments and I still do the speed work but only on low mileage and biking to work and back.

Yes, if you train too hard you will get problems, but so will a much younger runner.

Obviously I'm trying to talk you out of doping, but I think I might fail. But you still won't be as competitive as I was. In other words, this problem you have, it's not your body, it's in your head.

Are you telling me what happened in London was all in my head?

past master wrote:

Hormone deficiency? Who has that?

Old people. Their levels are pathetic.

past master wrote:

Why not just run faster? No, I'm not joking. All the masters runners I know are somewhat reticent to do pure speed work. You're still producing HGH as you get older, you don't need to supplement it, just stay healthy and train right.

I know well that you have not a clue of what the word reticent means , Gramps .