No love for Chelimo on LetsRun

rojo wrote:

We love chelimo. We regular interview scott simmons for our previews, went to Uganda for world xc and praised the Kenyan born americans for racing there.

Chelimo winning a bronze - when he won silver last yaer - isn't the story. When a LEGEND loses his first global final in 6 years, that's the lead.

It's not even debatable.

Women's steeple? a) An American won gold b) An American also took silver. c) It was also a huge upset.

Honestly, it's the opposite of racism. We are one of the few sites that promote the greatness of African runners like Edris. Our readers are more intereted in americans but we will cover it no matter what.

- ROJO I wouldn't even respond to the guys playing the "race card."

- That said, I truly don't understand why you or any American citizen would put up with WCAP shenanigans that hijack our fragile post-collegiate landscape. Furthermore, it's difficult to understand why anyone would embrace Chelimo after his actions at UNC-G & the way he carrys himself as an alleged soldier. Ben True should have been on this team!

Basket: you get it, because you are the type like Ben True that's trying to make it w/o the East African genetic, altitude & "only option" benefits. I have no problem with naturalized citizens that follow the process, but I do have serious problems with the Kenyans. They don't "give back" from where they are from ... Americans subsidize their college education at the expense of other citizens w/the noble idea that they will return to their country & contribute to society. Instead, they see America as a place with their skills that they can dominate & for some reason we are good w/that? How anyone can stomach WCAP's BS is beyond me.

Bunch: I guess you have no problem w/Kenyan hired guns running for WCAP, Bahrain, Qatar, & the Scandanavian countries that skew the IAAF system? I do!

I have no love for Chelimo & hope his running career fails and is dishonorably discharged from OUR Army which unfortunately serves him.

jasonkiddnba wrote:

Americans will cheer for Americans.

Canadians will cheer for Canadians.

If someone immigrates to USA or Canada as an adult, it will be hard for Americans or Canadians to fully embrace him/her as an American or Canadian.

Unless that individual is white.

This is a great list of track and field athletes that have switched countries. I would be interested to learn how their experience was with 'getting love' in their new adopted country:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eligibility_transfers_in_athletics

Awesome ... we're right up there w/Bahrain & Qatr where you are forced to change your name & become Muslim.

I thought the IAAF was supposed to be cracking down on this sort of thing? Soon all the finalists in the distance events will be Kenyans. They may as well just scrap the '3 per country' rule and let Kenya enter as many as make the standard.

I don't think it is racist to say that. The 3 per country rule is to allow all countries some kind of chance to compete even if only in the prelims. As in, see people who are actually FROM different countries, not just representing them. BBC was going on about how nice it was to see the range of countries appearing on the medals table?!

You should have to be a citizen of a country for at least 10 years to represent that country internationally.

- I agree with you.

- That's why I think it's phenomenally inappropriate that WCAP actively recruits & contributes to this unethical practice. Don't think that the Kenyans & others won't cut bait on their county in a NY minute.

- Heck, despite what UNC-G did for Chelimo's career he ultimately turned his back on the Spartans:

http://www.greensboro.com/blogs/wooten_running_shorts/update-paul-chelimo-quits-uncg-track-program/article_72671d84-af81-11e3-b804-0017a43b2370.html

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What makes folks think he won't do that on other Americans, fellow Soldiers, ?? The guys a chucklehead!

I a conservative libertarian and actually agree with the comment that the brojos are pretty racist.

I'm a liberal and do not agree with the comment that the brojos are racist.

Utter garbage, your website if a teeming cesspool of bigots that you both tolerate.This is the headline when Jager won his bronze:American Evan Jager Comes Up Short In Quest For Gold, Settles For America’s 1st-Ever Men’s World Championships Steeple MedalEmphasis on "American" is not lost, esp when compared to the Chelimo win.

rojo wrote:

We love chelimo. We regular interview scott simmons for our previews, went to Uganda for world xc and praised the Kenyan born americans for racing there.

Chelimo winning a bronze - when he won silver last yaer - isn't the story. When a LEGEND loses his first global final in 6 years, that's the lead.

It's not even debatable.

Women's steeple? a) An American won gold b) An American also took silver. c) It was also a huge upset.

Honestly, it's the opposite of racism. We are one of the few sites that promote the greatness of African runners like Edris. Our readers are more intereted in americans but we will cover it no matter what.

Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

I hate America.

Good for you.

I'm a conservative Libertarian and I believe the Brojos aren't racist. They are good businessmen. They report what sells. I also respect that they are not always PC. People are way too sensitive these days. But I guess the "everyone gets a trophy" Millenials on here get offended from time to time.

Chelimo gold would have gotten his own page. Farah losing was the story. Especially for a majority American audience.

- Your wrong ...

* most American track & field followers DO NOT follow the East Africa scened despite LR.com coverage. There is NO click-bait on BROJO African running coverage.

* Chelimo barely got any coverage at all in his "hometown" of Greensboro NC & ZERO I'm seeing from the Army. It's good ... no one cares which is awesome from where I sit.

Lickety Split wrote:

Awesome ... we're right up there w/Bahrain & Qatr where you are forced to change your name & become Muslim.

This brings up a topic rarely discussed, but in light of the recent ARD piece on Ethiopians and Kenyans who feel like "slaves" to the management system in Africa and Europe, doesn't the practice of forcing a name change by countries like Qatar and Turkey smack of the imposition of "slave names" in the American South in the 1800's? I personally find it distasteful.

If you look at that list again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eligibility_transfers_in_athletics

you will see that runners from Kenya and Ethiopia have been lured to every continent. As a result every continental championships distance races are won by an runner of Kenyan or Ethiopian descent.

African Championships: well obviously here.

North American Championships (USA): runners like: Barnard Lagat, Chelimo

Asian championships: a boat load of runners from Kenya and Ethiopia have gone to run for Qatar and Bahrain. Even thought technically Qatar and Bahrain are in the middle east, they are included as part of Asia.

European championships: Wilson Kipketer one of the most famous, who immigrated to Denmark. But Turkey is filled with Kenyans and Ethiopians. Turkey also technically part of the middle east, but competes in the European championships for some reason.

The only continents left for the Kenyans and Ethiopians to conquer are South America (better learn Spanish or Portuguese) and Oceania (Australia and NZ).

- Kenyan & Ethiopian athletes have choices:

A) Get ripped off by their crony federations.

B) Protest against their crony federations.

C) Get ripped off by another country

D) Join the WCAP feeder system via the NCAA Farm Teams (UTEP, MTSU, Western Kentucky, Alabama & the "elites" that allocate 1 per squad -- OK State, Oregon, etc.)

[quote]Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

I'm guessing it will take a while before Chelimo is considered American.

How long will it take him to turn white?

Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

This is the headline from the front page:

Mo Farah is beaten in men’s 5,000 at Worlds, Muktar Edris dethrones the king The King has been dethroned and in a tactical 5000. Paul Chelimo takes bronze.

Not leading with "US gets bronze in the 5000".

Interestingly the women winning the steeple has been the main pics for 2 days now.

I'm guessing it will take a while before Chelimo is considered American. Until then for most on this board the bronze really isnt "American".

Sad.

So you want to force people to like someone you twisted, lobotomized, sjw, kook?

Chelimo's "actions" at UNC Greensboro were to pursue some more competitive races when they wanted him to jog around in some local races. He will bring fame to that team for decades, and if they'd treated him better, he would return and help recruit. What chance does a team like that have to bring in anyone remotely close to his talent in the distances?

I love Chelimo. He was a few tactics away from possible gold.

I'm generally pretty liberal, but I am uneasy with hiring mercenaries to run for you (or us) as well. It's one thing to move here as a kid, and another to move as an already established runner basically being allowed to move here for that reason alone. (Aside: Isn't this exactly what Trump is hoping to make more common with his proposed immigration reform to allow in people based on special skills and talents rather than need or persecution?)

I get that a guy like Been True gives us all hope that a hard-working blue-collar guy like us can make it, but would he have ever been a factor in that race? If he had been in heat one he would not have made the final and maybe not out of heat two either. You would really want to watch that? That is pretty much what American running was for 30 years and it was unwatchable.