I run 55-65 miles per week. I'd like to know how to get faster but running strides does not seem to help me.
What should I be doing? Is it possible that I am doing too many?
(I generally do 4 x 60 before and after every practice.)
I run 55-65 miles per week. I'd like to know how to get faster but running strides does not seem to help me.
What should I be doing? Is it possible that I am doing too many?
(I generally do 4 x 60 before and after every practice.)
It helps. Relax, be patient.
The great champion. wrote:
It helps. Relax, be patient.
Thank you.
The great champion. wrote:
It helps. Relax, be patient.
I agree. This may help, too:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=7839723&thread=7836514#7839723No it actually slows performance. Once-twice per week does help though.
There's a difference between strides and a full effort sprints with full recovery. Strides is meant to practice technique while at high speed and the feeling of relaxation and also for warmups to get the muscles working at above the the workout speed, and to work the muscles at higher than the usual ling distance running speed. and they are not at full effort. More like short interval effort. While the other one works on pure speed with full effort and full recovery- more like plyometric workout
Weight wrote:
There's a difference between strides and a full effort sprints with full recovery. Strides is meant to practice technique while at high speed and the feeling of relaxation and also for warmups to get the muscles working at above the the workout speed, and to work the muscles at higher than the usual ling distance running speed.
I never get that surely the one purpose of a warm up is to prevent injury. So basically doing this you are going about you interval pace before working up
My theory on this is backed up having strained a hamstring doing strides I avoid them as part of a warm up
Doing them daily is ridiculous
Strides during warm-up isn't done right away!
These are the my steps generally of a warmup before a quality workout -
1. 10-12 minute slow jogging.
2. Light streching while standing, not on the ground (those could come after the workout)
3. 4-5 strides in which their speed rise gradually. The first one is a slow stride, second one faster etc, until you get to speed of a little bit above the workout speed. You shouldn't feel effort in those strides, feel relaxed and easy- hovering. In no way should you sprint full effort. This kind of warm up brings you to the workout in a spingy feeling. It takes 20-25 minutes
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Weight wrote:There's a difference between strides and a full effort sprints with full recovery. Strides is meant to practice technique while at high speed and the feeling of relaxation and also for warmups to get the muscles working at above the the workout speed, and to work the muscles at higher than the usual ling distance running speed.
I never get that surely the one purpose of a warm up is to prevent injury. So basically doing this you are going about you interval pace before working up
My theory on this is backed up having strained a hamstring doing strides I avoid them as part of a warm up
Doing them daily is ridiculous
You can't start running at interval speed just after a jogging- this can cuase injury. You must rise gradually during the warm up to the same effort of the workout and even faster so you can feel relaxed during the workout
Strides. If you are going to do intervals, strides are done first to explain to your body that it's about to run fast.
Although there was a kid on my college XC team who did daily strides. He had a great kick. But he was fast anyway.
Super Dumb Cletus wrote:
I run 55-65 miles per week. I'd like to know how to get faster but running strides does not seem to help me.
What should I be doing? Is it possible that I am doing too many?
(I generally do 4 x 60 before and after every practice.)
60? Try doing 100 meter strides x 6-10, just 3 times a week post run.
No need to do prior unless your doing intervals on the track and or some type of hard effort.
Here they're doing strides before 2000-1000m interval session
Strides everyday are very beneficial. 10x100 at a relaxed but fast pace. Helps create good running mechanics and push off. Bob Schul would do 20-40 a day.
Last I checked he was the only 5k golf medalist we have.
Hi there Super Dumb Cletus. You can be Super Smart Cletus if you do strides after, and not before.
Bob Schul Country wrote:
Strides everyday are very beneficial. 10x100 at a relaxed but fast pace. Helps create good running mechanics and push off. Bob Schul would do 20-40 a day.
Last I checked he was the only 5k golf medalist we have.
He hit a golf ball 5 kilometers??! Wow. I'm definitely going to do strides
Ahead of my time wrote:
Bob Schul Country wrote:Strides everyday are very beneficial. 10x100 at a relaxed but fast pace. Helps create good running mechanics and push off. Bob Schul would do 20-40 a day.
Last I checked he was the only 5k golf medalist we have.
He hit a golf ball 5 kilometers??! Wow. I'm definitely going to do strides
No, no... he was a double gold medalist... 5k and golf... and the reason was he did strides no other reason... never even picked up a gold club or anything else... crazy good that guy.
Every single day seems misguided - diminishing returns, fatigue etc.
As other people have said - different types of "strides achieve different things." All-out strides will develop speed, more relaxed strides help develop form, comfort at pace and some coaches view them as part of "recpvery" - think 'stretching/refreshing' the legs.
Like any part of training - work out what you want to achieve - and plan them in when it makes sense.
HillDilly wrote:
Every single day seems misguided - diminishing returns, fatigue etc.
As other people have said - different types of "strides achieve different things." All-out strides will develop speed, more relaxed strides help develop form, comfort at pace and some coaches view them as part of "recpvery" - think 'stretching/refreshing' the legs.
Like any part of training - work out what you want to achieve - and plan them in when it makes sense.
My coach has us do a 1 mile job, Running Drills, then 4 x 60 meter strides every day for a warm up. Most days we often jog a mile then do 4 x 60 meter strides afterwards. The strides at the beginning are meant only to warm up. The ones at the end are part of the cool down/warm down.
I feel that what we are doing is not fast enough to develop speed.
It is true that it matters how you do strides. Unfortunately as a coach I found that many kids were done for the day after the first "warm up," strides were done because they sprinted them all out! But perhaps running controlled on your own these may be okay. I know of a coach who had four state champion teams and they always had the team do strides before and after practice.
But you need to be a 'fly on the wall,' sometimes to know how they need to be done.
You can warm up and cool down with striders.
However I would not do more than one sprint workout per week. This may be too hard on distance runners who are not used to doing so.
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