MIAC XC 2017

UST passed Carleton in regional rankings. So either DCG and the freshman are both dead or the voters are slaves to results they don't critically examine.

THOUGHTS?

Ustfccca ranking rules. Once October gets here, if a team beats another team head to head...they have to jump them in rankings.

Well I'm just as confused. Why would Luther or St. Thomas make such jumps and teams like Saint John's drop out? Is the Carleton course just that much more difficult that Eau Claire's or was the competition just that much more intense at Carleton? I don't get it.

If courses were close to eachother in comparison, I would argue that Saint John's outperformed both of them, mainly on the basis of their low stick in Burgstahler. (spelling?).

And to drop Carelton so far like that, seems brash... Even if they did lose, it should be obvious that they were sitting out runners (presumably).

Oracle, you should add a regional team ranking to your already thorough individual and team MIAC rankings.

Not sure how these teams get ranked but it sure seems this ranking is way off for anyone who actually puts a little thought into it.1. Loras2. Wartburg3. Carleton4. St. Olaf5. Nebraska Wesleyan----Any of the rest not in order-Cornell, SJU, UST, Luther, Grinnell, BethelI think most of these teams have or will run Lacrosse so we will know more in a couple of weeks.

Races with the prizes wrote:

Well I'm just as confused. Why would Luther or St. Thomas make such jumps and teams like Saint John's drop out? Is the Carleton course just that much more difficult that Eau Claire's or was the competition just that much more intense at Carleton? I don't get it.

If courses were close to eachother in comparison, I would argue that Saint John's outperformed both of them, mainly on the basis of their low stick in Burgstahler. (spelling?).

And to drop Carelton so far like that, seems brash... Even if they did lose, it should be obvious that they were sitting out runners (presumably).

Oracle, you should add a regional team ranking to your already thorough individual and team MIAC rankings.

Good question. It seems that while the pre-season rankings are based on predictive analysis, everything else seems based solely on the team's latest performance, and not taking into account top scoring runners who may be sitting out to rest.Given the process for selecting teams for nationals, it would seem to be important for coaches to field full teams in October when at all possible.

As of today:

Carleton no longer nationally ranked, Olaf drops from 18 to 30.

Thoughts?

Having seen both courses, Carleton's course is more challenging than Eau Claire's. That being said, any thoughts about Wilkinson taking home the dub?

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Anybody see the results from TC 10 last weekend? Cool to see some old names-Ian la mere hammered out a 47 mid, Ryan bugler, Calvin lehn, Tomhas feightencger, was cool to see!

Tc 10 mile? wrote:

Anybody see the results from TC 10 last weekend? Cool to see some old names-Ian la mere hammered out a 47 mid, Ryan bugler, Calvin lehn, Tomhas feightencger, was cool to see!

It was cool to see old MIAC faces, and La Mere. Ian ran a phenomenal race, according to the USATF summary, he started to push the pace on the pros at 4 miles and strung the race out. Really impressive stuff.

Lehn found himself in an odd spot with the elite field. Either go out with the pros at 4:46 pace and perish, or run in no-man's land for the whole race. He found some middle ground by going out at 5:00 pace early on, but that wasn't sustainable. Impressive that he was able to put it all together in the end and run 52:xx mid at the end of it. I'm glad he is still running, a talented runner who can make waves on the roads.

Bugler and Feichtinger had good races, too. They and the other Collegeville guys (Joe Reneir & Paul Nordquist *shoutout Gusties) had a nice pack throughout most of the race. I was impressed by the two former Johnnies though. Neither were much for the longer distances and ran 53:xx low for Bugler and 53:xx high for Feichtinger. Impressive stuff on their end. Maybe they were long distance runners this whole time?...

Many more former MIAC runners were in that race, as well. But too many names to note, and I didn't see them racing nor their results. Congrats to all! Keeping the dream alive for D3 runners.

I agree it was a great showing by the MIAC. Dan Greeno (they guy who won) is also an old MIAC guy from Bethel and has been doing well on the Minnesota road circuit for quite some time.

Scherber who is a Johnnie also ran really (just a few seconds behind Feichtinger).

UST over Hamline 19-42... anything interesting going on today?

Snore wrote:

UST over Hamline 19-42... anything interesting going on today?

Link?

So the "invitational" is just a dual between St. Thomas and Hamline over 4K. I guess now we know who the best 2 milers are.

Concordia had a pretty good day with Wicklund running 25:45 and Kneeskern 26:56. Isahak and Larson did not run.

http://concordiamn.prestosports.com/sports/mxc/2017-18/files/mxc171006jamestownresults.pdf

in an effort to repress the BIGOTRY rampant into this THREAD. I, the DEBIGOTED oracle will make predictions!.

1. Eua -Clerre

2. Calreton

3. Duluth

4. St. Olaf

5. State

6. Win State

7. betel

8. gusdavids

9. will

10. maccheese

11. ceneter

12. cocordia

13. scholarstica

14. cathy

15. cloud

16. moris

17. suprior

18. mary"s

19. butheny

20. ml

21. nw

22. ytterbo

23. nothland

invidual results :

Results by Timing MD

Software by ChuckScoreCrossCountry

Women 6k

Women 6k

Place Bib Number Name School Time Pace

1 472 Hannah Roeske (FR) Wheaton (Ill.) 22:20.8 5:59

2 448 Audrey Western (SR) Washington U. 22:24.5 6:00

3 437 Anna Maurer (SR) Washington U. 22:30.1 6:02

4 440 Lara Rix (FR) Washington U. 22:33.0 6:03

5 425 Ellie Degen (JR) Washington U. 22:36.3 6:04

6 401 Madelyn Scopp (FR) North Central (Ill.) 22:40.2 6:05

7 464 Rebecca Marcotte (SR) Wheaton (Ill.) 22:41.1 6:05

8 443 Molly Shepherd (JR) Washington U. 22:42.3 6:05

9 325 Emma Zimmerman (SR) Grinnell 22:46.2 6:06

10 431 Elizabeth Hagstrom (SO) Washington U. 22:54.0 6:09

11 422 Ashley Shares Unattached 22:57.7 6:09

12 429 Lisa Gorham (JR) Washington U. 22:58.2 6:10

13 459 Aryn Embretson (JR) Wheaton (Ill.) 22:59.8 6:10

14 438 Annemarie Michael (FR) Washington U. 23:09.3 6:13

15 461 Ellie Hawthorne (JR) Wheaton (Ill.) 23:12.5 6:13

16 462 Erika Johnson (JR) Wheaton (Ill.) 23:13.4 6:14

17 430 Martha Gottbrath (SR) Washington U. 23:15.7 6:14

18 441 Natalie Rogus (JR) Washington U. 23:18.2 6:15

19 389 Allison Hartman (SR) North Central (Ill.) 23:21.7 6:16

20 444 Katie Snodgrass (FR) Washington U. 23:23.0 6:16

21 285 Amanda Jones (SO) DuPage 23:30.2 6:18

22 354 Susanna Finley (SR) Judson 23:32.0 6:19

23 343 Krissy Finley (SR) Illinois-Springfield 23:39.9 6:21

24 474 Ally Stapleton (SO) Wheaton (Ill.) 23:43.7 6:22

25 300 Mikayla Fujiwara (SO) Grinnell 23:45.7 6:22

26 436 Abigail Martin (JR) Washington U. 23:49.0 6:23

27 290 Anna Ahrens (JR) Grinnell 23:52.4 6:24

28 239 Emily Kraus (SO) Carroll 23:55.3 6:25

29 452 Megan Bailey (JR) Wheaton (Ill.) 23:56.5 6:25

30 358 Marie Mayer (FR) Judson 23:56.8 6:25

31 428 Megan Girmscheid (FR) Washington U. 24:02.5 6:27

32 424 Zarya de Souza (FR) Washington U. 24:09.5 6:29

33 327 Jillian Cole (JR) Illinois Wesleyan 24:14.8 6:30

34 304 Cara Keleher (FR) Grinnell 24:14.9 6:30

35 391 Alexis Henz (FR) North Central (Ill.) 24:16.3 6:31

36 453 Laura Barnes (JR) Wheaton (Ill.) 24:16.6 6:31

37 241 Karlee Larson (JR) Carroll 24:17.4 6:31

38 379 Ripley Vonhoff (JR) Millikin 24:18.6 6:31

39 445 Caroline Stocking (JR) Washington U. 24:20.0 6:32

40 392 Emma Jourdan (FR) North Central (Ill.) 24:21.6 6:32

41 353 Nayeli Cisneros (FR) Judson 24:27.7 6:33

42 426 Sahara Ensley (SO) Washington U. 24:29.1 6:34

43 277 Alanna Varnas (SR) Carthage 24:29.3 6:34

44 355 Lacey Heaver (JR) Judson 24:30.9 6:34

45 292 Madeleine Breunig (SO) Grinnell 24:33.9 6:35

46 349 Lexi Throne (FR) Illinois-Springfield 24:34.9 6:35

47 465 Morgan Moxley (FR) Wheaton (Ill.) 24:38.3 6:36

48 333 Monica Mocogni (SR) Illinois Wesleyan 24:38.4 6:36

49 232 Jenna Berlet (FR) Carroll 24:40.5 6:37

50 373 Mackenzie Dixon (FR) Millikin 24:41.6 6:37

51 252 Clare Swietlik (SR) Carroll 24:43.7 6:38

52 307 Emma Luhmann (SR) Grinnell 24:47.1 6:39

53 475 Catherine Stapleton (SO) Wheaton (Ill.) 24:48.8 6:39

54 320 Rebecca Villa (FR) Grinnell 24:52.0 6:40

55 394 Allyson McLaughlin (SO) North Central (Ill.) 24:52.6 6:40

56 463 Ally Lyle (FR) Wheaton (Ill.) 24:54.1 6:41

57 236 Brooke Dietsche (JR) Carroll 24:55.8 6:41

58 331 Cecelia Galvan (SO) Illinois Wesleyan 24:59.6 6:42

59 334 Katie North (FR) Illinois Wesleyan 25:02.6 6:43

60 350 Lexi Yoggerst (JR) Illinois-Springfield 25:04.7 6:43

61 260 Elena Kelsh (SR) Carthage 25:05.3 6:44

62 345 Libby Price (FR) Illinois-Springfield 25:09.4 6:45

63 338 Savannah Brannan (FR) Illinois-Springfield 25:10.8 6:45

64 466 Hannah Oechsle (SO) Wheaton (Ill.) 25:11.0 6:45

65 297 Allison Cottrell (FR) Grinnell 25:12.3 6:46

66 339 Kelsey Cleary (SO) Illinois-Springfield 25:15.3 6:46

67 449 Elise Alexander (SO) Wheaton (Ill.) 25:19.3 6:47

68 477 Alexandra Tumminello (FR) Wheaton (Ill.) 25:24.3 6:49

69 319 Whitney Teagle (SR) Grinnell 25:25.9 6:49

70 273 Maddy Schwartz (SR) Carthage 25:26.0 6:49

71 335 Alyssa Pridemore (SR) Illinois Wesleyan 25:27.1 6:50

72 351 Chloe Burkhart (SO) Judson 25:28.4 6:50

73 348 Olivia Rohr (JR) Illinois-Springfield 25:30.4 6:50

74 266 Molly McQueeny (SO) Carthage 25:31.2 6:51

75 434 Sage Loh (SO) Washington U. 25:31.5 6:51

76 250 Megan Reese (JR) Carroll 25:33.0 6:51

77 291 Nicole Arredondo (JR) Grinnell 25:38.3 6:53

78 276 Kaylie VanOrd (JR) Carthage 25:39.6 6:53

79 460 Brianna Hawthorne (FR) Wheaton (Ill.) 25:40.6 6:53

80 305 Tori LaVerdiere (SO) Grinnell 25:41.1 6:53

81 427 Payton Fors (SO) Washington U. 25:45.5 6:54

82 375 Natalie Krol (SO) Millikin 25:48.2 6:55

83 248 Ellie O'Connell (FR) Carroll 25:52.0 6:56

84 456 Emily Blom (SR) Wheaton (Ill.) 25:55.2 6:57

85 378 Joycelyn VanAntwerp (FR) Millikin 26:00.9 6:58

86 423 Faith Waterman Unattached 26:03.1 6:59

87 336 Jackie Schirmacher (SR) Illinois Wesleyan 26:03.9 6:59

88 284 Fatima Chaudry (SO) DuPage 26:04.8 6:59

89 404 Jenna Yakesh (FR) North Central (Ill.) 26:05.6 7:00

90 473 Becca Smith (FR) Wheaton (Ill.) 26:09.7 7:01

91 261 Brianna Kloster (SO) Carthage 26:10.3 7:01

92 313 Vishnu Nalamalapu (SO) Grinnell 26:10.5 7:01

93 254 Carly Egan (SO) Carthage 26:14.3 7:02

94 247 Christa Modrow (FR) Carroll 26:14.4 7:02

95 326 Rachel Budd (SO) Illinois Wesleyan 26:16.4 7:03

96 457 Taylor Burton (SO) Wheaton (Ill.) 26:18.8 7:03

97 267 Marisa Monbrod (JR) Carthage 26:18.9 7:03

98 400 Sarah Schalk (SR) North Central (Ill.) 26:21.3 7:04

99 387 Calista Stefaniak (FR) Moraine Valley CC 26:22.0 7:04

100 341 Claire Eaton (FR) Illinois-Springfield 26:23.5 7:05

101 263 Lexie Mallary (JR) Carthage 26:25.0 7:05

102 265 Kathryn McKinnon (SO) Carthage 26:25.9 7:05

103 251 Meg Stein (SO) Carroll 26:26.7 7:05

104 262 Emily Lilly (FR) Carthage 26:27.2 7:06

105 417 Brianna McCormick (SO) Roosevelt 26:27.4 7:06

106 346 Alexandria Quarton (SO) Illinois-Springfield 26:32.7 7:07

107 469 Rachel Reamer (SR) Wheaton (Ill.) 26:34.0 7:08

108 321 Meta Williams (SR) Grinnell 26:34.8 7:08

109 257 Amanda Goecke (SR) Carthage 26:36.0 7:08

110 329 Maddie Dulin (JR) Illinois Wesleyan 26:38.3 7:09

111 393 Julie Kupiec (FR) North Central (Ill.) 26:39.5 7:09

112 322 Sophie Wynde (JR) Grinnell 26:40.3 7:09

113 377 Victoria Myers (FR) Millikin 26:42.3 7:10

114 270 Laura Sanders (FR) Carthage 26:42.8 7:10

115 344 Abbie Lemley (FR) Illinois-Springfield 26:43.4 7:10

116 271 Adriana Santana (FR) Carthage 26:44.6 7:10

117 380 Claire Weers (FR) Millikin 26:45.5 7:10

118 294 Emily Burgess (JR) Grinnell 26:49.9 7:12

119 328 Michaela Drake (SR) Illinois Wesleyan 26:52.0 7:12

120 467 Kiersten Oslund (FR) Wheaton (Ill.) 26:52.9 7:12

121 337 Rachel Schoenecker (SO) Illinois Wesleyan 26:53.6 7:13

122 309 Katie Lou McCusker (JR) Grinnell 27:00.6 7:15

123 403 Meredith Wells (SR) North Central (Ill.) 27:04.6 7:16

124 450 Kaitlin Armstrong (FR) Wheaton (Ill.) 27:06.8 7:16

125 249 Sam O'Sullivan (JR) Carroll 27:13.5 7:18

126 390 Payton Hartman (SO) North Central (Ill.) 27:17.0 7:19

127 280 Tyra Wooster (SO) Carthage 27:22.4 7:20

128 398 Jamie Rohn (JR) North Central (Ill.) 27:25.4 7:21

129 302 Virginia Haverstic (FR) Grinnell 27:28.7 7:22

130 397 Yazmin Nunez (JR) North Central (Ill.) 27:30.6 7:23

131 246 Julia Michalski (FR) Carroll 27:31.1 7:23

132 278 Emily Walden (JR) Carthage 27:33.7 7:23

133 470 Karenna Robinson (JR) Wheaton (Ill.) 27:38.1 7:25

134 264 Tessa McKenna (SR) Carthage 27:42.2 7:26

135 451 Christy Baars (SR) Wheaton (Ill.) 27:45.0 7:27

136 237 Brittany Drag (FR) Carroll 27:49.4 7:28

137 402 Katie Thevara (JR) North Central (Ill.) 27:51.8 7:28

138 316 Jillian Rix (JR) Grinnell 27:52.9 7:28

139 340 Rachael Crowley (SO) Illinois-Springfield 28:01.4 7:31

140 399 Charlieanna Salzmann (FR) North Central (Ill.) 28:03.7 7:31

141 240 Neve Kronhelm (FR) Carroll 28:10.4 7:33

142 317 Julia Sioniewky (FR) Grinnell 28:13.9 7:34

143 332 Lexi Kremer (JR) Illinois Wesleyan 28:16.0 7:35

144 415 Jacqueline Fuller (JR) Roosevelt 28:19.1 7:36

145 356 Savannah Henn (SR) Judson 28:24.4 7:37

146 258 Erika Gordon (JR) Carthage 28:28.8 7:38

147 259 Kate Janes (FR) Carthage 28:32.1 7:39

148 233 Maddie Blaedow (SO) Carroll 28:34.0 7:40

149 382 Fabiola Castillo (SO) Moraine Valley CC 28:37.2 7:41

150 244 Erin Menegon (SR) Carroll 28:51.3 7:44

151 293 Anna Brew (FR) Grinnell 28:58.9 7:46

152 253 Indi Conover (JR) Carthage 29:02.3 7:47

153 303 Madison Howe (FR) Grinnell 29:05.2 7:48

154 311 Lauren Miller (FR) Grinnell 29:05.5 7:48

155 364 Diamond Norwood (FR) MacMurray 29:10.9 7:49

156 274 Kaelyn Scull (SR) Carthage 29:11.5 7:50

157 376 Alexis Monnet (FR) Millikin 29:15.5 7:51

158 347 Hannah Roberts (SO) Illinois-Springfield 29:18.3 7:52

159 411 Holly Peterson (FR) North Central (Minn.) 29:23.7 7:53

160 288 Sarah Volle (SO) DuPage 29:26.0 7:54

161 245 Sara Messner (SR) Carroll 29:26.8 7:54

162 299 Lauren Frankel (JR) Grinnell 29:49.0 8:00

163 454 Mary Claire Bass (SO) Wheaton (Ill.) 29:55.0 8:01

164 235 Abby Carncross (SR) Carroll 30:24.7 8:09

165 406 Brianna Griffin (JR) North Central (Minn.) 30:38.6 8:13

166 361 Haley Alt (FR) MacMurray 30:51.0 8:16

167 405 Raen Barcelon (SO) North Central (Minn.) 30:54.9 8:17

168 383 Caitlin Griffin (SO) Moraine Valley CC 31:05.3 8:20

169 281 Dulce Zarinana (SO) Carthage 31:07.5 8:21

170 416 Jessica Fuller (SR) Roosevelt 31:09.2 8:21

171 286 Ugne Narbutaite (FR) DuPage 31:21.9 8:25

172 275 Jane Thurow (FR) Carthage 31:24.4 8:25

173 231 Caitlyn Adams (JR) Carroll 31:25.8 8:26

174 410 Sidney Palmer (FR) North Central (Minn.) 31:26.3 8:26

175 365 Lizzy Staub (FR) MacMurray 31:36.9 8:29

176 412 Hawah Kamara (FR) Oakton CC 32:08.6 8:37

177 283 Randhawa Balraj (FR) DuPage 32:54.6 8:49

178 268 Bonnie Perrino (SO) Carthage 32:56.7 8:50

179 256 Riley Georghegan (SO) Carthage 33:26.4 8:58

180 409 Danelle Pageler (JR) North Central (Minn.) 33:27.7 8:58

181 243 Hannah Mehnert (FR) Carroll 34:08.3 9:09

182 242 Sabrina Manygoats (FR) Carroll 34:54.3 9:22

183 384 Natalie Moreno (FR) Moraine Valley CC 35:18.7 9:28

184 357 Jasmine Jackson (FR) Judson 35:26.7 9:30

185 386 Guadalupe Rodriguez (SO) Moraine Valley CC 39:26.1 10:35

186 363 Beth Friedrich (JR) MacMurray 42:24.5 11:22

questions. ?

Forget racing for a few days.

Fastnbulbous

You've been around for a little while and are really familiar with the MIAC.

If you had to make an all MIAC team from the 2000's (or maybe 2005 - present) for either cross country or track, who would you put on there? No limit to the number of names you put down. Just want the thoughts of someone who has seen the many faces of the MIAC over the years.