2017 D3 Atlantic Region XC

I would put Sidi below both Sean and Hernandez. Unless he's been holding something back I put my money on both of them outkicking him if he's anywhere near them.

Kevin might be close to Otto but only if Otto takes the pace out hard like he's done before. If it is a bit more controlled with IGC and GOC taking the lead, then Otto beats Veltre.

I put GOC over IGC purely on this season's results. Tempoing, working out before races, helping out lower kids... all of that gets done by any top guy on a team if they're looking to peak come Nationals. IGC has still looked weak throughout his performances thus far. IGC's speed will come in handy for sure but I put GOC on top from strength.

Kind of like D1 Nats a few years ago, where Tiernan just cranked away in the latter stage of the race, took the sting out of Cheserek's kick and gapped him early on.

SidiSux wrote:

I put GOC over IGC purely on this season's results. Tempoing, working out before races, helping out lower kids... all of that gets done by any top guy on a team if they're looking to peak come Nationals. IGC has still looked weak throughout his performances thus far. IGC's speed will come in handy for sure but I put GOC on top from strength.

Kind of like D1 Nats a few years ago, where Tiernan just cranked away in the latter stage of the race, took the sting out of Cheserek's kick and gapped him early on.

I was gonna let this one slide, but I think you need a little lesson, RPI fanboy.

IGC came from behind at Pre-Nats to beat Darin Lau and Dhruvil Patel, two of the top runners in the country. Let's see how GOC has stacked up against those two...

Outdoor Nats 10k, Lau beats GOC by 40 seconds.

Indoor Nats 5k, GOC gets beat by Lau and Patel by 17 seconds.

On top of that IGC beat GOC by 15 seconds in their one head-to-head race this season, so based "purely on this season's results" IGC gets an immediate advantage even if that was both of their season openers.

And yet IGC "looks weak". Good one. GOC is probably a top-5 in the country, but IGC is on a different talent level.

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Funny thing, how easy it is to compare things for your own argument.

GOC beat Tim Nichols in said outdoor NCAA 10k. The same person who beat Isaac by 9 seconds at NCAA XC last year.

Let’s all agree GOC has never beaten Isaac....and probably won’t win a regional title until next year.

Who do you have? wrote:

Who will win at regionals? I think its gonna be a great race. GOC will push IGC but I think IGC will unleash a devastating kick in the last 600m to win. Top 10 in my opinion:

1. Isaac Garcia Cassani

2. Grant O'Connor

3. Otto Kingstedt

4. Kevin Veltre

5. Sidi Abdoulaye

6. Sean O'Connor

7. Jeremey Hernandez

8.Alex Burks

9. Neil Saddler

10. Dadley Ogetti

Two SLU guys in the top 10 is laughable.

Ackerley gets 5th. You heard it here first

An accurate showing of what has happened so far this season...

Isaac Garcia-Cassani- Geneseo

Grant O'Connor- RPI

Otto Kingstedt- RIT

Kevin Veltre- Rowan

Neil Saddler- NYU

Sean O'Connor- RPI

Alex Burks- Geneseo

Jeremy Hernandez- Ramapo

Devin Akerley- Oneonta

Connor Pulvidente- Geneseo

Sidi Abdoulaye- SLU

Brandon Shirazi- NYU

Peter DeWeirdt- Hamilton

Ethan Francis- Fredonia

Dadley Ogetti- SLU

Geneseo- 50ish

RPI- 100ish

RIT- 150ish

SLU- 160ish

NYU- 160ish

Rowan

TCNJ

Oneonta

Region gets 4

In your dreams.

Accurate showing? So RIT didn't lose to Rowan with all their guys running at Rowan and to NYU and St Lawrence at prenats and conf?

Ethan Francis that high when he isn't even the top guy on his team most of the time? Only 2 Geneseo guys?

Whoops I guess there were 3 geneseo guys

If Kovacs and Bailey both run RIT gets third. They have both only run together once this season at their home meet in mid October. If Kovacs raced LL RIT, would have been close to SLU. In a bigger race their top three give them the nod with similar 5’s.

Rowan under performs every year. Oneonta is over rated due to racing Geneseo in a workout on a short Genny course.

How's everyone's JPD taper going? My left nut is the size of a cantaloupe.

Well I think we can all safely assume that the RIT and RPI fan boys have not started the JPD taper given their recent posting history.

I've heard the Mitch Ryan is going to be at regionals this weekend and in fact has been racing all year, but we have been unable to see him due to his all special all camo uniform.

You must have forgotten that RIT almost lost to Geneseo's B team at their home meet when Kovacs and Bailey ran.

Plot Reveal: This entire forum is just RIT and Sean O'Connor comparing pocket rockets

Lesbians and deaf women wear the same clothes.

Chill wrote:

You must have forgotten that RIT almost lost to Geneseo's B team at their home meet when Kovacs and Bailey ran.

Define almost losing to. RIT beat them by an average of 20 seconds per runner. 5 of their 7 beat the respective runner on the Genny B team in a meet where there were only 3 real competitive teams. Not to say RIT could face against Genny A but they definitely had Genny B beat even if Kovichs or Bailey weren't racing. RIT can finish 5th at Regionals I'd say.

Final word wrote:

If Kovacs and Bailey both run RIT gets third. They have both only run together once this season at their home meet in mid October. If Kovacs raced LL RIT, would have been close to SLU. In a bigger race their top three give them the nod with similar 5’s.

Rowan under performs every year. Oneonta is over rated due to racing Geneseo in a workout on a short Genny course.

Looks like they all ran here and got beat pretty bad. RIT should be in the mix with all 3 guys running but still would have lost to NYU and St Lawrence at Houghton and conf with all running. If all 5 of their guys run well on the same day they could beat teams in the St Law, Rowan, NYU group but not likely they beat all of them. Also if Kovacs didn't run LL there was prob a reason (illness or injury) so even if he runs doesn't mean he will be full strength.

As far as the genny course being short, looks like teams that ran their and houghton ran similar times so couldn't be that off.

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