Tell me more, I'm all ears (or eyes, as it were).
Tell me more, I'm all ears (or eyes, as it were).
Need to bring this back on point...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
We were there too. We know what you and your people tried to do. You didn't think we would allow that challenge to our system did you? The deep state controls the judicial system, the FBI, the media, and Wall Street. That's why you and your people needed to be destroyed. And we did.
Now we lost big to the powerful and rich Trump. But That won't last. The deep state is busy concocting false charges to bring Trump down and to regain our upperhand. DiscGary, tell them how powerful we are. It's the very foolish indeed to think we don't exist. Right now our FBI and our media people are deciding which fake news stories to publish to bring Trump down.
DiscoGary tell them what we did to you. The clown is going down. The deep state is coming.
Obvi wrote:
obvious problem wrote:
Trying to justify the unjustifyable. That is why you fail.
Really? I thought that it had something to do with lack of belief.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EwcYwax4Oo
You are wise beyond your years young grasshopper but I think in this case I prefer my wording, misspellings and all.
Similarities between the Empire and the deep state?
Flagpole wrote:
Need to bring this back on point...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Yes, yes. YOU certainly do. No one else cares though.
So, in case there are others that are as stupid/foolish as Mr Flagpole...
Mueller hasn't come close to- nor will be- coming.
The clown is clearly Flagpole.
And what gets a lot of us around here really excited, is that Flagpole WILL BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT OVER POTUS45, DONALD J TRUMP!!
Tick, tick.
Flagpole wrote:
Need to bring this back on point...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Indeed. Looks like Rick Gates has now flipped. That means he joins Flynn and Papadopoulos as cooperating witnesses.
Mueller is reportedly filing more charges against Manifort. It's possible that Gates is putting the screws to Manifort, which makes Manifort more likely to cooperate as well.
Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?
Pluarality wrote:
As low a life form as politicians and lawyers.
Hey, I resemble that remark!
Speaking of which, do you know what happens when a lawyer takes Viagra?
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S/he gets taller.
Fat hurts wrote:
Mueller is reportedly filing more charges against [Manafort]. It's possible that Gates is putting the screws to [Manafort], which makes [Manafort] more likely to cooperate as well.
Yes, but what I gleaned (from the story that was linked a few posts above) is that this all relates to stuff that happened before the Trump campaign.
Seems pretty clear that Manafort (and Gates) will go down; not at all clear that their going down will have a significant impact on Trump or his campaign.
...Which is the way I like it. As I've said before, I want DJT to serve his full four or eight years. He's just a blowhard, like me, and people eventually learn to deal with that. What I *don't* want is Pence in the Oval Office; I shudder (literally) at the thought.
But the USA has a strong system and will survive, regardless. We survived eight years of Bill Clinton, eight years of G. W. Bush, and eight years of Barack Obama; we'll survive eight (or four) years of Donald Trump, and we can survive a Pence interregnum if necessary.
kibitzer wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Mueller is reportedly filing more charges against [Manafort]. It's possible that Gates is putting the screws to [Manafort], which makes [Manafort] more likely to cooperate as well.
Yes, but what I gleaned (from the story that was linked a few posts above) is that this all relates to stuff that happened before the Trump campaign.
Seems pretty clear that Manafort (and Gates) will go down; not at all clear that their going down will have a significant impact on Trump or his campaign.
Maybe you missed the point where he wrote they could put the screws to them to make them cooperate.
Meaning, maybe they have evidence of guilt in areas before the campaign, but they could plea their way down by providing evidence of shadiness "during" the campaign.
That only assumes that Trump did anything shady related to the campaign.
If he did, there are people with serious charges against them that could snitch. Or even better, provide hard evidence against Trump in exchange for lesser jail time.
There are three Trump associates who have plead guilty and one with a preponderance of guilty evidence that could provide the goods on Trump.
Plus they are tracking money laundering through Trump and his campaign.
Not to mention the whole obstruction of justice thing.
And Congress does not need proof beyond a reasonable doubt to impeach and convict.
But if Trump is straight as an arrow like claims, he will be fine.
I don’t think Trump is as impotent as you suggest. Look at the immigration reform failure. Congress may have been able to have put forth a bill but the “world’s best deal maker “ was unwilling to compromise.
I agree that we will survive Trump thanks to the checks and balances of our Constitution. However, I disagree that any of 3 previous Presidents were in anyway comparable to Trump. You may have disagreed with their politics or in Clinton’s case, immoral behavior, but they were all for the mst part competent Presidents. Trump is not.
DiscoGary wrote:
White supremacism is becoming a bigger thing because liberals are blaming whites for every problem in the world, and some people just don't handle that kind of abuse as well as I do. If you treat people like crap as a group then don't be surprised when they band together to fight you.
Oh, I get it, violence by white supremacists is the fault of left wingers, NOT the white supremacists, and/or those that give voice and comfort to many of their views (like the President himself)?
And I am going to "pull a Gary" here, and say - 'everyone, pay close attention'-Gary is actually attempting to rationalize/excuse/justify the murders just committed by this lunatic Florida dude and others associated with white supremacy (Dylan Roof) and maybe even sympathize a little with their actions. This Cruz "kid" joined a white supremacist group and liked to wear M-A-G-A hats and spew insults against blacks and muslims on-line (apparently), so he obviously ID'd with these groups' philosophy. Gary's response?
Whites have been blamed for every problem, so they are mad, recruiting liked minded people, grouping together, and "fighting back," can you blame them?
Really Gary?
Then why don't you have the same attitude concerning minorities that have faced decades, hell centuries, of being "blamed for every problem in the world", and who have actually been beaten, tortured, murdered (not just called names or "blamed" for things) because of, not their viewpoints, but their skin color, or gender, or religion ?? Why if they "fight back" (let's say kill some police officers, or maybe shoot whitey) don't you say "well, can you blame them" ??
I don't think you want to go there.
kibitzer wrote:
Yes, but what I gleaned (from the story that was linked a few posts above) is that this all relates to stuff that happened before the Trump campaign.
Seems pretty clear that Manafort (and Gates) will go down; not at all clear that their going down will have a significant impact on Trump or his campaign.
You are missing the game Mueller is playing and the Right is pretending doesn't exist. Use the felonies they have as a lever to get at information regarding the likely money laundering crimes and who knows what else.
foo wrote:
I don’t think Trump is as impotent as you suggest. Look at the immigration reform failure. Congress may have been able to have put forth a bill but the “world’s best deal maker “ was unwilling to compromise.
I agree that we will survive Trump thanks to the checks and balances of our Constitution. However, I disagree that any of 3 previous Presidents were in anyway comparable to Trump. You may have disagreed with their politics or in Clinton’s case, immoral behavior, but they were all for the mst part competent Presidents. Trump is not.
Trump makes GWB #43 look like a genius. Remember that #43 was the guy that heard God speaking to him. You know what they call that in homeless shelters? Mental illness.
Meanwhile, proving once again how big an idiot Trump is, his declassification stunt has set off legal consequences apparently no one in the White House considered. That's some remarkable swamp draining!!!
Mehta said the government would normally be entitled to deference in asserting the need to keep its investigative work under wraps, but perhaps no longer with respect to the dossier.
“This isn’t the ordinary case,” Mehta told a Justice Department lawyer, Anjali Motgi. “I don’t know of any time the president has declassified the fact of a counterintelligence investigation. That’s going to be a hard sell given what the president has done. … This is a new frontier and it has an impact.”
I for one, am not opposed to Trump's idiocy in this situation as it might end up with more transparency.
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Need to bring this back on point...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Indeed. Looks like Rick Gates has now flipped. That means he joins Flynn and Papadopoulos as cooperating witnesses.
Mueller is reportedly filing more charges against Manifort. It's possible that Gates is putting the screws to Manifort, which makes Manifort more likely to cooperate as well.
1) You are correct.
2) Gates cooperating is a bad sign for Trump.
3) Now we have the former Playboy story that continues to prove Trump is absolutely amoral. SOME Christian conservatives will abandon him over this. He certainly isn't going to gain support because he can't keep it in his pants.
4) Just a spelling thing -- It's "Manafort"...the extra "a" is for "a$$hole" (him, not you).
5) Posters here like EPIC are in denial. Mueller is indeed coming, and the clown is indeed done.
Free and clear wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Huh. Briedbard bots declares this thing with Russia isn't a real thing, yet the White House is Bannon's puppet master?
Trump has already guaranteed Bannon his permanent freedom. Bannon can do anything illegal he likes.
Yet the White House is Bannon's puppet master?
Once again, if there is nothing there for an investigation to find and Bannon "can do anything" why is Bannon on such a tight leash to the point the committee head, (a Republican) is evaluating charges against Bannon for not talking?
That is a whole lot of risk, time, and energy for something the White House tells us every day is fake news.
Flagpole wrote:
SOME Christian conservatives will abandon him over this.
Wishful thinking. They don't care one bit about him as a person. Trump delivers theocratic wins.
EPlC Flagpole [aka Hardloper] wrote:
^EPIC !!!!!!!!!!! HardLoper
present, jd wrote:
Pluarality wrote:
As low a life form as politicians and lawyers.
Hey, I resemble that remark!
Alas. Most politicians are lawyers.
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