...and Paul Ryan goes under the bus
Trump is a massive POS. Who would ever work with this human refuse?
...and Paul Ryan goes under the bus
Trump is a massive POS. Who would ever work with this human refuse?
eric a blair wrote:
...and Paul Ryan goes under the bus
Trump is a massive POS. Who would ever work with this human refuse?
https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/845090579214159874
...the bill will pass in the House tomorrow. A modified version will pass the Senate thereafter, and Trump will sign it.
Then it will come out that there is definitive, damning evidence of collusion between Trump & the Russians to effect the election. Trump will be impeached, Pence will resign, many of Trump's team will go to jail.
Ryan / Hatch 2018...the establishment ALWAYS wins!
This too, shall pass wrote:
eric a blair wrote:...and Paul Ryan goes under the bus
Trump is a massive POS. Who would ever work with this human refuse?
https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/845090579214159874...the bill will pass in the House tomorrow. A modified version will pass the Senate thereafter, and Trump will sign it.
Then it will come out that there is definitive, damning evidence of collusion between Trump & the Russians to effect the election. Trump will be impeached, Pence will resign, many of Trump's team will go to jail.
Ryan / Hatch 2018...the establishment ALWAYS wins!
What planet do you live on? Libs come up wit the craziest theories! I at least agree with your first sentence.
The most obvious question:
Why do people still believe and Trust in Trump?
Can anyone explain that to me?
most obvious Q wrote:
The most obvious question:
Why do people still believe and Trust in Trump?
Can anyone explain that to me?
You still don't get it? Really? The way you little babies think of Trump is basically how we've been feeling about most politicians for the last 25 years. The way he's driving the establishment, the media pawns, and the far Left SJWs crazy makes us smile every single day.
That's why he won the upper middle class suburban vote (which truly won him the election). We're the least manipulated by identity politics, and we don't trust politicians anyhow. We handed the election to Obama twice, remember.
I've never understood why there are folks that are solidly Left or solidly Right, when everyone knows politicians are slithering pieces of garbage. How can you respect them so much?
eric a blair wrote:
She she she man wrote:Better get all the cocky comments in now, because when modified Ryancare passes, and Gorsuch gets confirmed via the nuclear option, you're going to be crying again.
The thing is this -
Trump cares not a lick what is in this bill. Not a teeny tiny bit. And he STILL can't get it passed. It's a testament to his carpy political skillz.
Anyway, if you are right that the bill will pass, and you think it will pass tomorrow, you can make a carpload of money at predictit. Bet 22 cts, get a dollar tomorrow if you are right.
I won't bet, but I'm tempted. I think there is a good chance they pass this thing.
https://www.predictit.org/Contract/5909/Will-the-House-of-Representatives-pass-the-American-Health-Care-Act-by-Mar-24#data
Apparently you learned nothing from your epic 2016 election prediction disaster, Agip.
eric a blair wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:I'm guessing that they would support mandatory military service and mandatory Christian prayers in public schools.
But it's really hard to say because they haven't articulated what they believe.
Apparently, the main purpose of Freedom Caucus is to block stuff. They campaign by saying that the government doesn't work. Then they go to Washington to make sure it is true.
I think you are missing their point...they want government to have a minimal role in our lives. They don't want government telling us what we have to do. They would MUCH rather give you a tax break and let you buy health insurance IF YOU WANT than force you to buy it.
They see an absolute value in giving people choices and leaving it up to them. They see the Dems leading us to Socialism, which they believe ends up in everyone dead and poor.
That's why you see people saying 'hey Dems take a look at Chavez and Stalin - those are your heroes'
RIght wingers honestly think that Obama=type politics are little different than Chavismo.
So the right wingers are trying to save the country by taking away healthcare. It's that simple.
If the Freedom Caucus is made up of men with core values then why don't they state what those values are? I tried searching to find out. If you have something, please post it.
The truth is that they are just lazy. Being a member of congress is an easy job when you don't have to govern. You just say "no" to everything and you keep getting elected.
Fat hurts wrote:
eric a blair wrote:I think you are missing their point...they want government to have a minimal role in our lives. They don't want government telling us what we have to do. They would MUCH rather give you a tax break and let you buy health insurance IF YOU WANT than force you to buy it.
They see an absolute value in giving people choices and leaving it up to them. They see the Dems leading us to Socialism, which they believe ends up in everyone dead and poor.
That's why you see people saying 'hey Dems take a look at Chavez and Stalin - those are your heroes'
RIght wingers honestly think that Obama=type politics are little different than Chavismo.
So the right wingers are trying to save the country by taking away healthcare. It's that simple.
If the Freedom Caucus is made up of men with core values then why don't they state what those values are? I tried searching to find out. If you have something, please post it.
The truth is that they are just lazy. Being a member of congress is an easy job when you don't have to govern. You just say "no" to everything and you keep getting elected.
Their core values are simple. Two words: FREE MARKET!
Now all you have to do is click your heels together three times and shout FREE MARKET in a loud angry voice and PRESTO! all of our healthcare woes will be magically solved.
Fat hurts wrote:
eric a blair wrote:I think you are missing their point...they want government to have a minimal role in our lives. They don't want government telling us what we have to do. They would MUCH rather give you a tax break and let you buy health insurance IF YOU WANT than force you to buy it.
They see an absolute value in giving people choices and leaving it up to them. They see the Dems leading us to Socialism, which they believe ends up in everyone dead and poor.
That's why you see people saying 'hey Dems take a look at Chavez and Stalin - those are your heroes'
RIght wingers honestly think that Obama=type politics are little different than Chavismo.
So the right wingers are trying to save the country by taking away healthcare. It's that simple.
If the Freedom Caucus is made up of men with core values then why don't they state what those values are? I tried searching to find out. If you have something, please post it.
The truth is that they are just lazy. Being a member of congress is an easy job when you don't have to govern. You just say "no" to everything and you keep getting elected.
they absolutely have core values. They are an extremely principled bunch of people. I mean think about it - they are elected officials, telling their people "no, you can't have freebies." What is more principled than that?
I'd flip it around to you - I'd say it's easy to be a liberal democrat - just give stuff away and pretend that is governing. Just say 'yes' to everything and you keep getting elected.
In other words, they are highly principled...just not your principles.
Here is their mission statement: “The House Freedom Caucus gives a voice to countless Americans who feel that Washington does not represent them. We support open, accountable and limited government, the Constitution and the rule of law, and policies that promote the liberty, safety and prosperity of all Americans.â€
most obvious Q wrote:
The most obvious question:
Why do people still believe and Trust in Trump?
Can anyone explain that to me?
President Trump isn't a libbbtard trying to disarm and enslave the American People like the piece of $hit c u n ton. It is really simple. Get Government the fck out of the way and out of the health care business all together.
Government only has 1 job and is really good at it. That is killing my nations enemies. If is doesn't require dropping HE or slinging lead the government should have no part in it because it sucks at it and always will.
Now please continue throwing your tantrums libbbtards I enjoy your tears tremendously!😂
🇺🇸FTMFW
WTIAT wrote:
eric a blair wrote:I think you are missing their point...they want government to have a minimal role in our lives. They don't want government telling us what we have to do. They would MUCH rather give you a tax break and let you buy health insurance IF YOU WANT than force you to buy it.
They see an absolute value in giving people choices and leaving it up to them. They see the Dems leading us to Socialism, which they believe ends up in everyone dead and poor.
That's why you see people saying 'hey Dems take a look at Chavez and Stalin - those are your heroes'
RIght wingers honestly think that Obama=type politics are little different than Chavismo.
So the right wingers are trying to save the country by taking away healthcare. It's that simple.
Well, everyone does end up dead. There's no denying that.
And if you're a Christian you know that "The poor you will always have with you".
So really, they're not wrong.
I don't know exactly what point you are trying to make here, but it always bothers me when scripture is quoted out of context. I'm not saying you did this purposely, but I'd like to provide the context here.
When Jesus said, "The poor you will always have with you." he was responding to Judas. The disciples had a fund for the poor and Judas was treasurer. However, Judas was embezzling the money.
A woman anointed Jesus with expensive perfume and Judas objected saying that the perfume could have been sold and made part of the fund for poor.
Jesus said in John chapter 12:7-8
Leave her alone,†Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me.
What's more, Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy 15:11
There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land.
Jesus wanted us to be generous toward the poor just as we are generous toward him. (Also see Matthew 25:34-46)
Therefore, for those of us who follow Jesus, we not only accept taxes that help the poor and the sick, we are delighted about it.
Fat hurts wrote:
WTIAT wrote:Well, everyone does end up dead. There's no denying that.
And if you're a Christian you know that "The poor you will always have with you".
So really, they're not wrong.
I don't know exactly what point you are trying to make here, but it always bothers me when scripture is quoted out of context. I'm not saying you did this purposely, but I'd like to provide the context here.
When Jesus said, "The poor you will always have with you." he was responding to Judas. The disciples had a fund for the poor and Judas was treasurer. However, Judas was embezzling the money.
A woman anointed Jesus with expensive perfume and Judas objected saying that the perfume could have been sold and made part of the fund for poor.
Jesus said in John chapter 12:7-8
Leave her alone,†Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me.
What's more, Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy 15:11
There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land.
Jesus wanted us to be generous toward the poor just as we are generous toward him. (Also see Matthew 25:34-46)
Therefore, for those of us who follow Jesus, we not only accept taxes that help the poor and the sick, we are delighted about it.
Jesus, then why not just donate any or all your money to the poor and the sick?
You are delighted? Yeah you are delighted to receive a FCKN handout you do nothing fat fck😂
Jesus, you libbbtards are FCKN stupid😂
eric a blair wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:If the Freedom Caucus is made up of men with core values then why don't they state what those values are? I tried searching to find out. If you have something, please post it.
The truth is that they are just lazy. Being a member of congress is an easy job when you don't have to govern. You just say "no" to everything and you keep getting elected.
they absolutely have core values. They are an extremely principled bunch of people. I mean think about it - they are elected officials, telling their people "no, you can't have freebies." What is more principled than that?
I'd flip it around to you - I'd say it's easy to be a liberal democrat - just give stuff away and pretend that is governing. Just say 'yes' to everything and you keep getting elected.
In other words, they are highly principled...just not your principles.
Here is their mission statement: “The House Freedom Caucus gives a voice to countless Americans who feel that Washington does not represent them. We support open, accountable and limited government, the Constitution and the rule of law, and policies that promote the liberty, safety and prosperity of all Americans.â€
If you are saying "yes", you are saying "yes" to particular policies. Making good public policy is really, really hard.
But saying "no" is really, really easy. You don't have to come up with policy positions. You don't have to go on the record saying you support anything. I don't think it's a coincidence that you found a meaningless mission statement but were unable to find any policy that the Freedom Caucus actually stands behind.
And btw, that statement truly is meaningless. I'm a liberal and I support that mission statement 100%. The hard part is translating high-minded ideals into policy.
DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:I don't know exactly what point you are trying to make here, but it always bothers me when scripture is quoted out of context. I'm not saying you did this purposely, but I'd like to provide the context here.
When Jesus said, "The poor you will always have with you." he was responding to Judas. The disciples had a fund for the poor and Judas was treasurer. However, Judas was embezzling the money.
A woman anointed Jesus with expensive perfume and Judas objected saying that the perfume could have been sold and made part of the fund for poor.
Jesus said in John chapter 12:7-8
What's more, Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy 15:11
Jesus wanted us to be generous toward the poor just as we are generous toward him. (Also see Matthew 25:34-46)
Therefore, for those of us who follow Jesus, we not only accept taxes that help the poor and the sick, we are delighted about it.
Jesus, then why not just donate any or all your money to the poor and the sick?
You are delighted? Yeah you are delighted to receive a FCKN handout you do nothing fat fck😂
Jesus, you libbbtards are FCKN stupid😂
I do give lots of money to the poor and the sick. Do you?
Da Burbians wrote:
most obvious Q wrote:The most obvious question:
Why do people still believe and Trust in Trump?
Can anyone explain that to me?
You still don't get it? Really? The way you little babies think of Trump is basically how we've been feeling about most politicians for the last 25 years. The way he's driving the establishment, the media pawns, and the far Left SJWs crazy makes us smile every single day.
That's why he won the upper middle class suburban vote (which truly won him the election). We're the least manipulated by identity politics, and we don't trust politicians anyhow. We handed the election to Obama twice, remember.
I've never understood why there are folks that are solidly Left or solidly Right, when everyone knows politicians are slithering pieces of garbage. How can you respect them so much?
With the exception of Obama, Ive never heard anyone say they respect politicians. One can only pick through the trash to find the least worse of the bunch, but many went deep to find the worst scumbag of all, and now he's our president. Think he's helping this country, he is beyond useless as a politician, he's destructive.
Fat hurts wrote:
eric a blair wrote:they absolutely have core values. They are an extremely principled bunch of people. I mean think about it - they are elected officials, telling their people "no, you can't have freebies." What is more principled than that?
I'd flip it around to you - I'd say it's easy to be a liberal democrat - just give stuff away and pretend that is governing. Just say 'yes' to everything and you keep getting elected.
In other words, they are highly principled...just not your principles.
Here is their mission statement: “The House Freedom Caucus gives a voice to countless Americans who feel that Washington does not represent them. We support open, accountable and limited government, the Constitution and the rule of law, and policies that promote the liberty, safety and prosperity of all Americans.â€
If you are saying "yes", you are saying "yes" to particular policies. Making good public policy is really, really hard.
But saying "no" is really, really easy. You don't have to come up with policy positions. You don't have to go on the record saying you support anything. I don't think it's a coincidence that you found a meaningless mission statement but were unable to find any policy that the Freedom Caucus actually stands behind.
And btw, that statement truly is meaningless. I'm a liberal and I support that mission statement 100%. The hard part is translating high-minded ideals into policy.
Elect Trump for POTUS = YES 🇺🇸
Elect $hitlery C U N Ton for POTUS = fck NO 😂😂😂
Decimate libbbtards = YESðŸ‘
Make a govt that enslaves Americans = NO👎
Laugh at libbbtards = hellz yes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fat hurts wrote:
DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:Jesus, then why not just donate any or all your money to the poor and the sick?
You are delighted? Yeah you are delighted to receive a FCKN handout you do nothing fat fck😂
Jesus, you libbbtards are FCKN stupid😂
I do give lots of money to the poor and the sick. Do you?
You don't give $hit to anyone you fat greedy fck. You want the Federal Government to take care of you like every other libbbtard wanting a FCKN handout.
If you did give anything to the poor you would not be so adamant about the fed forcing people to give their earnings to others. Aka taking care of do nothing lazy fat fck libbbtards like you.😂
Libbbtards😂😂😂😂
Freedumb Cockus core values... wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:If the Freedom Caucus is made up of men with core values then why don't they state what those values are? I tried searching to find out. If you have something, please post it.
The truth is that they are just lazy. Being a member of congress is an easy job when you don't have to govern. You just say "no" to everything and you keep getting elected.
Their core values are simple. Two words: FREE MARKET!
Now all you have to do is click your heels together three times and shout FREE MARKET in a loud angry voice and PRESTO! all of our healthcare woes will be magically solved.
I think that pretty accurately sums up the depth of their agenda and plan. I like the allusion to Kansas which is a shining beacon of the free market / freedom caucus approach to government....
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/23/kansas-gop-revolts-nearly-overturns-gov-sam-brownbacks-billion-dollar-failed-experiment/https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-24/kansas-ends-bad-economic-news-by-not-reporting-ithttp://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-kansas-hard-times-snap-20161121-story.htmlhttps://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/kansass-failed-experiment/389874/http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article129281854.html....clearly based on the results in Kansas we should follow the freedom caucus / Koch bros approach to governing. It works out so well!
She she she man wrote:
eric a blair wrote:The thing is this -
Trump cares not a lick what is in this bill. Not a teeny tiny bit. And he STILL can't get it passed. It's a testament to his carpy political skillz.
Anyway, if you are right that the bill will pass, and you think it will pass tomorrow, you can make a carpload of money at predictit. Bet 22 cts, get a dollar tomorrow if you are right.
I won't bet, but I'm tempted. I think there is a good chance they pass this thing.
https://www.predictit.org/Contract/5909/Will-the-House-of-Representatives-pass-the-American-Health-Care-Act-by-Mar-24#dataApparently you learned nothing from your epic 2016 election prediction disaster, Agip.
Agip isn't exactly a "thinker." In fact agip is perhaps one of the stupidest beings to frequent these boards.
In simple terms, agip is a dumb fckr😂
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