Jose el Plomero wrote:
Trump's awfulness actually makes me pine for someone like George W Bush. I can't believe it.
Are you kidding? I crossed that party line immediately after election - bring back Bush and Cheney!
Jose el Plomero wrote:
Trump's awfulness actually makes me pine for someone like George W Bush. I can't believe it.
Are you kidding? I crossed that party line immediately after election - bring back Bush and Cheney!
LOL Libtards wrote:
Russia investigation has been ongoing for nearly two years (if you count illegal Obama wiretaps):
Evidence of wrongdoing by Trump:
1.
2.
3.
Evidence of Dem/FBI wrongdoing:
1. Hillary paid-for dossier - NOT PROSECUTED
2. FBI colluded with Dems - NOT PROSECUTED
3. Uranium One- NOT PROSECUTED
4. Comey lied under oath- NOT PROSECUTED
5. Strzok/Page texts- NOT PROSECUTED
6. Illegal wiretapping- NOT PROSECUTED
7. Warner/Schiff Russia collusion
- NOT PROSECUTED
60x credit wrote:
foo wrote:
Oh, wow, the market really tanked again today.
I don't believe the POTUS really has much to do with the economy or the day to day fluctuation in the market, but I do find it kind of ironic that only a week or so after Trump took complete credit for the booming market, it collapses.
IQ45 took credit for the booming markets nearly 60 times--more than once a week, until a week ago. Now silence.
Where Donny at now? Market now cutting into 2017 gains. Since he stated the market rise was his doing, where’ s Donny now?
Trollminator wrote:
Leftists are frauds wrote:
http://i.magaimg.net/img/2lp0.jpgStrong source, must be true
I like how Warner said he didn't want to leave a paper trail. You know something is on the up and up when one doesn't want anyone to find out about it.
Or, perhaps he is just a treehugger.
Only GOP voters matter, bruhs.... wrote:
The disgusting moronic authoritarian slob in the White House is here through at least 2020, bruhs.
And we had better hope he is. If he leaves, we get PENCE--and then we'd be in a world of shit.
If Pence gets in, then through a combination of a) Pence's experience/competence in legislating and b) the general relief and good feelings about having survived Trump, the theocratic/autocratic/plutocratic measures that the GOP wants might actually be implemented.
With Trump in, there's a lot of bluster but not much legislative productivity, so we're safer.
kibitzer wrote:
Only GOP voters matter, bruhs.... wrote:
The disgusting moronic authoritarian slob in the White House is here through at least 2020, bruhs.
And we had better hope he is. If he leaves, we get PENCE--and then we'd be in a world of shit.
If Pence gets in, then through a combination of a) Pence's experience/competence in legislating and b) the general relief and good feelings about having survived Trump, the theocratic/autocratic/plutocratic measures that the GOP wants might actually be implemented.
With Trump in, there's a lot of bluster but not much legislative productivity, so we're safer.
Of course, the best result would be that Mueller indicts both the godless Trump and the "godly" vice president who sold his soul.
And thank you Trump for delivering the worst performing week in the markets in 9 years. What a winner
If the shoe fits...
You're a triggered Memetard. No factual argument, whatsoever.
kibitzer wrote:
Only GOP voters matter, bruhs.... wrote:
The disgusting moronic authoritarian slob in the White House is here through at least 2020, bruhs.
And we had better hope he is. If he leaves, we get PENCE--and then we'd be in a world of shit.
If Pence gets in, then through a combination of a) Pence's experience/competence in legislating and b) the general relief and good feelings about having survived Trump, the theocratic/autocratic/plutocratic measures that the GOP wants might actually be implemented.
With Trump in, there's a lot of bluster but not much legislative productivity, so we're safer.
I have said this before, but it needs repeating...this is not the right way to think about this.
Justice should be served and the rule of law should be protected. We can't allow a president to remain in power just because he is incompetent if he is lawless. You should ALWAYS do what is right even if there is a consequence you don't like. Now, of course you do need to do some cost-benefit analysis, but having justice served on a person who has likely conspired with a foreign enemy power and for sure has obstructed justice is way more important than having to deal with anything Mike Pence might do (though he could be swept up in this Russia thing too).
Serve justice on Trump and then deal with Pence.
It will happen too, because...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
XY wrote:
Where Donny at now? Market now cutting into 2017 gains. Since he stated the market rise was his doing, where’ s Donny now?
You should know how it works by now.
Low unemployment numbers under Obama: Fake news!
Low unemployment numbers under Trump: Now these are real numbers!
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Rising stock market under Trump: Look at how great I am at pushing the market up!
Falling stock market under Trump: Deep State is rigging the system!
This ^
ALWAYS do the right thing regardless of political calculations. Otherwise you are nothing but a Trumpette sitting on the other side of the aisle.
///
Also,
Mueller is indeed coming. I've heard it from some very good people. The best people.
The clown is bigly done.
The DOW has had the worst week since 2008.
And 2008 was the worst recession in most of our lives.
I realize that it is a correction and that it was over valued.
But just last week the Donald was bragging how the DOW hit record heights because of him
And of course he would never say that the drop is a reflection of his doing.
When the markets were dropping in 2008, it was because housing was collapsing on bad loans.
Part of the drop now is the fear of rising interest rates and actually the fear that companies will have to give pay raises which will hurt their profits.
The twisted irony is that companies are seen to be doing well when they pay their employees little.
So let's hope they right that pay raises for us all are ahead.
L L wrote:
The DOW has had the worst week since 2008.
And 2008 was the worst recession in most of our lives.
I realize that it is a correction and that it was over valued.
But just last week the Donald was bragging how the DOW hit record heights because of him
And of course he would never say that the drop is a reflection of his doing.
When the markets were dropping in 2008, it was because housing was collapsing on bad loans.
Part of the drop now is the fear of rising interest rates and actually the fear that companies will have to give pay raises which will hurt their profits.
The twisted irony is that companies are seen to be doing well when they pay their employees little.
So let's hope they right that pay raises for us all are ahead.
Don’t buy the trickle down line, it never happens that way. Banks were supposed to help stimulate the economy by borrowing at near 0 and lending cheap, did they not do that, instead they hoarded cash. US companies were supposed to invest in employees and raw materials here to improve the domestic market, they did not do that, they outsourced. Over and over again the trickle down effect was supposed to mean that businesses earned more and thus paid more, they did not do that, they still paid as little as possible. Don’t be stupid.
Well stocks are down because investors are expecting profits to be down.
So are they expected sales to go down or costs to go up?
There seems to be some concern for a government tax stimulus during a good economy.
People rode it up and are cashing out.
Trollminator wrote:
. . . Don’t be stupid.
This ^ is good advice.
L L wrote:
Well stocks are down because investors are expecting profits to be down.
So are they expected sales to go down or costs to go up?
There seems to be some concern for a government tax stimulus during a good economy.
People rode it up and are cashing out.
Expectations of performance isn't driving this... earnings growth was not very impressive last year, 2-4% while valuations continued to climb ~20%. This is a healthy correction. Tax stimulus was baked into the numbers since end of 2016, so that effect has been a smaller factor over time. One thing is for sure, if Trump keeps toying around with the shutdown then this could get really ugly. Of course, Presidents have little impact on the economy or markets, but Trump claimed to own their performance. Hopefully his foolish voters believed him.
You can't just say it's a correction without saying why it's a correction.
A number of people are selling because they see others selling and think they must know something.
They sell because they predict a drop in value.
And value is of course subjective.
But there has to be a root cause and corporate profits are still the main driver, whether it's past results of profits or future projections.
People selling think earnings will go down.
Flagpole wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
And we had better hope he is. If he leaves, we get PENCE--and then we'd be in a world of shit.
If Pence gets in, then through a combination of a) Pence's experience/competence in legislating and b) the general relief and good feelings about having survived Trump, the theocratic/autocratic/plutocratic measures that the GOP wants might actually be implemented.
With Trump in, there's a lot of bluster but not much legislative productivity, so we're safer.
I have said this before, but it needs repeating...this is not the right way to think about this.
Justice should be served and the rule of law should be protected. We can't allow a president to remain in power just because he is incompetent if he is lawless. You should ALWAYS do what is right even if there is a consequence you don't like.
I understand your point but disagree. Impeachment is fundamentally a political process and it must be approached and evaluated in political terms. In such a case, "doing what is right" not only could but should IMO include a consideration of the action's overall effect on the country.
To use somebody else's hypothetical: Suppose a president simply decided to stop "presidenting" and just went to hang out in the Keys for a couple years. Congress certainly could and would impeach and convict him/her, and s/he'd be removed from office. But for what offense? What "high crime [or] misdemeanor"?
Well, for whatever the House said was impeachable. Congress *defines* what is a "high crime [or] misdemeanor" and that is a political decision. Once a president has been impeached and convicted, s/he is removed from office--the only Constitutional consequence--and then might be subject to criminal or civil charges and punishment, if any; but the political impeachment proceedings are entirely separate from any legal/judicial process and should be assessed separately.
As it happens, I seriously doubt that DJT would be impeached and convicted in any case, even by a Democratic-majority Congress; and I certainly hope he wouldn't be, because I think the country would be better served overall by avoiding a Pence presidency.
L L wrote:
You can't just say it's a correction without saying why it's a correction.
A number of people are selling because they see others selling and think they must know something.
They sell because they predict a drop in value.
And value is of course subjective.
But there has to be a root cause and corporate profits are still the main driver, whether it's past results of profits or future projections.
People selling think earnings will go down.
INCORRECT!
People selling think that stock prices will go down.
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