Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Why does Israel love Trump so much?

Because he really hates Muslims and Israel is a non-Muslim US ally with nuclear weapons in the middle of a bunch of Muslim countries.

He does like Saudi Arabia, but that's because he loves money more than anything.

Flagpole - what would you prefer? A) Impeachment proceedings with a low probability of success for the sake of doing the right thing. If he’s cleared here he’d probably get away with everything, or B) wait it out with Dems winning the Senate and presidency in 2020, plus the ability to go after Trump for crimes later. IMO those are the two likely options. The reality is given their positional power, POTUS is above the law, and impeachment is a political and not a judicial process. So unless Mueller’s report is super air tight there is little chance of prevailing because Trump will not speak under oath.

Giver of ratings wrote:

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You have to at least seem like you aren’t trolling.

Right? So stupid to think that modern political discourse actually makes an impression on people. I bet all those Hitler Youth and their parents voted for Hillary.

Just a Wonderin’ wrote:

I wonder if any act like that ever happened before Trump.

Yeah, remember the 90s when pogs, beanie babies, and vintage SS uniforms were all the rage with the kids? I remember when my friends and I would get together and play Sieg Heil. What fun we had. Totally normal thing for well-adjusted kids to do.

TTH wrote:

L L wrote:

You read and watch "All the President's Men" and are shocked at how little it took for Nixon to resign compared to what is out there on Trump.

Major difference being Nixon on tape. That likely doesn't exist with Trump...

Well, we DO have Trump on tape conspiring with Michael Cohen to commit a FELONY Campaign Finance Law violation.

1) That is a FELONY.

2) That is CHEATING to win an election.

Fentrekker wrote:

Chohen is Toast (literrally) wrote:

E Europeans were the ones who cooperated with Germany to send the Jews to the GAS CHAMBERS. Trump is E European and hates Jews like Michael Cohen. Trump is going to let the FBI fry Cohen in the oven.

I detest Trump more than anyone, but your facts here are wrong. It was not only the East Europeans who collaborated with the Nazis in killing Jews. The French, for example, were willing collaborators. They sent French Jews to the camps without the Germans having to ask. There were also collaborators in Belgium, The Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Italy. I suggest you do some reading.

Very little evidence of Finnish collaboration. Not widespread. They publicly and privately resisted turning over Jews to the nazis.

You're probably pro nazi in your own right and suggest you pull your head out of your ass

in case anyone forgot wrote:

you missed it... wrote:

super simple wrote:

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trumpet needs to ket go of their orange god and let he get impeached and sent to jail. .... just ignore him. ...

hardly a trumpet... i think trump is the worst president ever... I just think the more attention he gets the better for his popularity... just ignore the guy... he'll go away.. btw, I wrote liberal media because trump fans think that is what exists...

Sounds like a good idea on its face, but it is impractical. Trump is the President of the United States. It is news if he has a cold. It is headline news just about any time he opens his mouth, because the latest thing he says and does is more outrageous than the last.

What do you suggest the press ignores?

Lying about the size of the inauguration crowd?

His comments after Charlottesville?

Firing Comey?

Lying about knowing about the payment to Stormy Daniels?

His comments after the hurricane that hit Puerto Rico?

His comments about Putin?

Firing Sessions and installing Whitaker?

By his nature and then his position, he is not ignorable.

The truth is Democrats don't have anything on Trump other than false accusations drummed up by the liberal media. They do have a whole lot of hate for him and this keeps this thread semi interesting.

Ryle Up wrote:

TTH wrote:

QFT. Far better a drip drip drip pounding of the POTUS rather than impeachment which will rile up his base and Republicans as more of a political ploy. Drag everyone the Dems can in front of as many investigative committee's as they can.

Incorrect. Republicans impeaching Clinton lead to republican voters getting all riled up and voting in a republican as president.

Bush’s win had nothing to do with Clinton’s impeachment. Gore was a snore. Bush leveraged the good guy values. Gore also won the popular vote. It was simply a change Election. Republicans were simply energized after 8yrs of a Dem.

And Gore was boring lol, and viewed as a continuation of Clinton.

Alan

Alan

And people forget that Clinton never got close to 50% of the popular vote in either election

Alan

aamau wrote:

Fentrekker wrote:

I detest Trump more than anyone, but your facts here are wrong. It was not only the East Europeans who collaborated with the Nazis in killing Jews. The French, for example, were willing collaborators. They sent French Jews to the camps without the Germans having to ask. There were also collaborators in Belgium, The Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Italy. I suggest you do some reading.

Very little evidence of Finnish collaboration. Not widespread. They publicly and privately resisted turning over Jews to the nazis.

https://www.quora.com/Why-didnt-the-Nazis-get-the-Finnish-collaborators-to-hand-over-Finnish-Jews

You're probably pro nazi in your own right and suggest you pull your head out of your ass

My grandfather was a Finnish collaborator so I know what I am talking about. I piss on his grave in Lahti, quite literally, on my trips home.

Trollminator wrote:

Flagpole - what would you prefer? A) Impeachment proceedings with a low probability of success for the sake of doing the right thing. If he’s cleared here he’d probably get away with everything, or B) wait it out with Dems winning the Senate and presidency in 2020, plus the ability to go after Trump for crimes later. IMO those are the two likely options. The reality is given their positional power, POTUS is above the law, and impeachment is a political and not a judicial process. So unless Mueller’s report is super air tight there is little chance of prevailing because Trump will not speak under oath.

What is right isn't necessarily what I would prefer...that's where integrity lies. I am a rule of law person, and believe we should follow Constitution.

There is no guarantee that what you provide as givens will happen.

Impeaching a President hurts not only the President but the party. There is no guarantee that this will embolden him and people who like him. In fact, this led to the election of a Republican President after Clinton was impeached.

These are the reason I believe the House impeaching Trump is the right thing to do (again only if the Mueller report shows impeachable actions):

1) Shows we just don't allow our President to do what he wants with no consequence. And being impeached even if he then is not convicted by the Senate is a consequence. This is part of the reason Americans disliked Hillary so much. I would be fine with that kind of dislike being handed down to his children...children who have expressed an interest in running for President. We don't need that or any other Dictator wannabe candidates.

2) There is a right side and wrong side of history. If Senate Republicans don't convict Trump based on what I believe will be a very telling harsh report of Trump's crimes, they will be on the wrong side of history, and they will suffer the consequences of that.

Mainly though, I don't view this through a political chess lens. If a person in power commits crimes, they should be charged with those crimes, or in this case have to go through the impeachment process. Not to do so shows a willingness to allow it to happen.

Trollminator wrote:

Flagpole - what would you prefer? A) Impeachment proceedings with a low probability of success for the sake of doing the right thing. If he’s cleared here he’d probably get away with everything, or B) wait it out with Dems winning the Senate and presidency in 2020, plus the ability to go after Trump for crimes later. IMO those are the two likely options. The reality is given their positional power, POTUS is above the law, and impeachment is a political and not a judicial process. So unless Mueller’s report is super air tight there is little chance of prevailing because Trump will not speak under oath.

You addressed Flagpole, but I will give you my answer.

I choose (A). Doing the right thing.

The founders wrote the impeachment clause for a reason.

If he is acquitted in the impeachment, they can still go after criminal activity later. It is not double jeopardy. He will be in Manafort's shoes with tax evasion and money laundering.

I don't think an acquittal in early 2019 helps his chances of election in late 2020.

It only takes 51% of the electoral votes to prevent re-election, not two thirds like the senate.

If senators acquit on charges that the public thinks he is clearly guilty of, that does not help Trump or his party.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Ryle Up wrote:

Incorrect. Republicans impeaching Clinton lead to republican voters getting all riled up and voting in a republican as president.

Bush’s win had nothing to do with Clinton’s impeachment. Gore was a snore. Bush leveraged the good guy values. Gore also won the popular vote. It was simply a change Election. Republicans were simply energized after 8yrs of a Dem.

And Gore was boring lol, and viewed as a continuation of Clinton.

Alan

Alan

Meh...it was a factor. It's one of the 13 keys...scandal in the previous administration.

CORRECT!

And did they see all of these Benghazi investigations and long hearings on Hillary?

No convictions there, but they pursued it.

I will say that those Hillary investigations stuck with Trump voters and they thought she must of done something wrong.

Runningart2004 wrote:

And Gore was boring lol, and viewed as a continuation of Clinton.

Alan

At the time, Gore was referred to as "wooden". He was and still is.

But he would have made a great president. We would not have gone into Iraq and wasted trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives.

Plus, we would have a sane energy policy that would have greatly enriched us all.

Runningart2004 wrote:

And Gore was boring lol, and viewed as a continuation of Clinton.

Contrast this with Trump who is anything but boring or a continuation of current administration and see where that's got us.

Runningart2004 wrote:

And people forget that Clinton never got close to 50% of the popular vote in either election

Actually you've brought this up before. I've never seen any compelling detailed analysis that suggest Perot's candidacy threw the election to Clinton. HW was done in by a poorly timed economic downturn and Dole wasn't any more charismatic than Gore. Clinton won both times by pretty large margins.