Obese, 42, sub 16

asbelk wrote:

What does a 250 pound 42 year old need to do to run a sub 16 5k?

A miracle.

NoWayJose wrote:

asbelk wrote:

What does a 250 pound 42 year old need to do to run a sub 16 5k?

A miracle.

Savage

Lose 100 pounds. If you don't do this than the rest is worthless.

asbelk wrote:

What does a 250 pound 42 year old need to do to run a sub 16 5k? He ran 15:55 in high school.

Is Jack Daniels a good program to follow for this goal?

it would be interesting to know what your height is, but regardless, obesity and distance running don't mix. If the person in question (perhaps you are referring to yourself in the third person) could break 22 minutes for 5k, that would be a miracle. I don't see how an obese person runs more than 8 mpw without getting injured.

Ok from doctor

Life style changes diet smoking drinking

Gradual weight loss

Gradual build up

Sub 17 in 3 years would be very good

But the real benefit would be a much better health

I'm 5 foot 9. My weight's yo-yo'd in the past between 160 to 230 when I hobby jogged 5 Marine Corps (4 hrs) about 10 years ago.

The weight will come off with a sustained training program and diet changes.

Specifically, I've been following Jack Daniels' (3rd ed.) White fitness program to return to regular running. I'm in phase 2 with no injuries.

The principal concern here is what program to follow. Is Daniels' fitness programs, White then Red, a good plan to follow?

Thanks for any replies, including serious and even the characteristic immature LRC banality.

I wouldn't worry about what training plan to follow until you lose the vast majority of the excess weight. The reality is that with 100+ extra pounds on you, you can't really "train" to be particularly competitive at anything. What you CAN do is really focus on diet and just make sure you're running regularly. Maybe try to build up slowly as you're losing the weight.

Run an all-out 5k every day and watch your diet.

NoWayJose wrote:

asbelk wrote:

What does a 250 pound 42 year old need to do to run a sub 16 5k?

A miracle.

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Midlife crisis much OP? You should set a more realistic goal because the current one is setting yourself up for certain failure. Failure going to exacerbate whatever shit situation you're in now that prompted such a ridiculous notion.

Prove me wrong.

Honestly my man wrote:

I wouldn't worry about what training plan to follow until you lose the vast majority of the excess weight. The reality is that with 100+ extra pounds on you, you can't really "train" to be particularly competitive at anything. What you CAN do is really focus on diet and just make sure you're running regularly. Maybe try to build up slowly as you're losing the weight.

Good perspective. Thanks.

doot doot wrote:

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Midlife crisis much OP? You should set a more realistic goal because the current one is setting yourself up for certain failure. Failure going to exacerbate whatever shit situation you're in now that prompted such a ridiculous notion.

Prove me wrong.

It is ridiculous, but I won't concede certainity of failure. I'll keep this thread updated as I progress toward proving you wrong.

asbelk wrote:

I'm 5 foot 9. My weight's yo-yo'd in the past between 160 to 230 when I hobby jogged 5 Marine Corps (4 hrs) about 10 years ago.

The weight will come off with a sustained training program and diet changes.

Specifically, I've been following Jack Daniels' (3rd ed.) White fitness program to return to regular running. I'm in phase 2 with no injuries.

The principal concern here is what program to follow. Is Daniels' fitness programs, White then Red, a good plan to follow?

Thanks for any replies, including serious and even the characteristic immature LRC banality.

It "yo-yo'd between 160 and 230"?? Be honest: it went FROM 160 TO 230, primarily in one direction (and now 250).

mid-life crisis indeed wrote:

It "yo-yo'd between 160 and 230"?? Be honest: it went FROM 160 TO 230, primarily in one direction (and now 250).

160/170 was my marathon weight. 220/230 was after my 2/3 month break after the marathons.

Duh!!!!!!

An RV.

I'm 41, 5'4", was yo-yoing between 170-90 a couple years ago before I tried to make a running comeback. Now I yo-yo between 155-60.

Your body just doesn't really respond to training in your 40's as it did in your teens. The weight that you think will melt away with training grudgingly hangs around.

Injuries will pile up, you get frustrated.

Set a more realistic goal. Your pre-fat running times are ancient history, go out and set post fat PR's and try to beat them.

Best of luck in getting under 17, if you get there, you are a freak.

asbelk wrote:

What does a 250 pound 42 year old need to do to run a sub 16 5k? He ran 15:55 in high school.

Is Jack Daniels a good program to follow for this goal?

Few 42 year olds can break 16.

I am 39, 5'11", 135 lbs. I ran 14:47 in college at the same racing weight. I am running 35-40mpw consistently, usually with two hard tempo runs per week. I ran 16:05 last month in a 5k. If you want to run as fast now as you did in high school you will have to train better than you did in high school. You will need to be at the same or a better racing weight and probably need to do slightly more volume and a similar amount of quality. It is doable but it will be a major commitment of lifestyle. time and effort.

asbelk wrote:

mid-life crisis indeed wrote:

It "yo-yo'd between 160 and 230"?? Be honest: it went FROM 160 TO 230, primarily in one direction (and now 250).

160/170 was my marathon weight. 220/230 was after my 2/3 month break after the marathons.

How does one gain 60 lbs in a couple of months? Did you have surgical lipoinjection?

Hellelujah wrote:

How does one gain 60 lbs in a couple of months? Did you have surgical lipoinjection?

Binge eating disorder, genes, no exercise.