Has any team ever been as deep as Wisco is now?

I think Colorado is extremely deep as well. Remember, Billy Nelson didn't run at Nationals, Ryan Deak can still become a running force, and of course there are many more corlorado runners that will work their way threw the woodwork. Looking to next year, it may be an extremely great battle b/w colorado and wisconsin. Plus, can't ever count of Arkansas and Stanford.

Updates to your times

Teg (Sr.) 13:30.90, 7:51.75

Bairu (Jr.) 13:45.50, 7:57.05, 28:28.69

Solinsky (So.) 13:39.07, 7:53.14

Keller (Sr.) 13:47.40, 8:05.90, 29:09.93

Lockhart (Jr.) 13:54.91, 8:01.06, 29:11.61

Nelson (So.) 14:03.20, 8:16.79, 29:11.33

Ford (Sr.) 13:52.95. 8:09.33

Spiker (Sr.) 14:17.09, 8:11.49

You forgot Withrow's 14:16 in hs and 8:06 for the 3k recently..

I don't know how much overlap there was among these guys, but in about a five year span UTEP had Wilson Waigwa, Gidamis Shahanga, Peter Lemashon, James Munyala, Zak Barie, Mathews Motshwarateu RIP, and the best NCAA distance man ever, Suleiman Nyambui. Maybe someone can tell if three or four of these guys were on the same team.

In 81, they scored 17 points. These weren't high school stars with lots of potential; they were, in many cases, Olympians.

Hedgehog wrote:These weren't high school stars with lots of potential; they were, in many cases, Olympians.

Yeah, and foreigners too. Not quite the same.

Didn't Tim Nelson just run a 13:50?

True. But I noticed the question didn't limit participants to rosy-cheeked Anglos. But I grant your point; grown up, internationally experienced Africans aren't the same as youngsters a year or so removed from running district against Riverdale High.

I havn't checked into it, but I hear that UTEP had some crazy depth back in the day. Some guy told me that they had close to a perfect score at cross nationals or something. Any one know anything about this team?

from last year had 17 guys under the 14:18 regional qualifying standard. I think 8-9 under 14.

Yes, it's a shame they couldn't be Americans like Bairu. Oh, wait...

VitaminR wrote:

Didn't Tim Nelson just run a 13:50?

Correct. I missed that. 13:50.80.

Mapleleafs wrote:

Yes, it's a shame they couldn't be Americans like Bairu. Oh, wait...

That's a little different. Bairu is from Canada, and he had been going to the Wisconsin running camps for years before he went to UW.

WRONG that is not any different...

foreign is foreign is foreign, if you don't like the africans you can't like the canadians

g__ d__n people

He also ran 8:06 recently

So what ever happened to the Wisc women?

What about the Stanford team that won the Track title back in 2000 with the following people...

Brad Hauser 13:27/28:08

Brent Hauser 13:30s/28:16

Jason Balkman sub 14/28:30s

Gabe Jennings 3:35/13:42

Michael Stember 1:46-:47/3:35

Johnathan Riley 13:39

I realize Stember didn't run the 5k and Jennings didn't run it too often either, but I think that the Stanford team from 2000 could at least rival them...in the end though, I would venture to say that Wisco probably still has a better team since they had 6 sub 14's not to mention Withrow making the 12k team, and Tim Keller not running as well as he could this weekend (8:19) when he's a sub 29 guy in 10k.

Was Nate Nutter on that team as well?

STL_Runner wrote:

Hedgehog wrote:These weren't high school stars with lots of potential; they were, in many cases, Olympians.

Yeah, and foreigners too. Not quite the same.

Foreigners can enroll in college just like American kids. Putting them in different categories is ridiculously stupid. Foreigners have to run the miles, do the workouts, skip classes, and redshirt as many times as possible just like the Americans.

I don't know how to check this but I think there was a year I was in college where Stanford had about a dozen under 14:00 and a slightly bigger number under 30:00. It would have been in 97, 98, or 99.