Remember when "atheist" had a negative connotation?

thejeff wrote:

Our Father who art in the WH wrote:

How did 'We" kick him out? I thought he was the guy with the power?

Free will :-)

But those people back in the day had free will and God was said to be firebombing them and turning into pillars of salt and killing their firstborn etc.

I also want to point out how you're saying that god's love is conditional. You're saying that god doesn't help people because sin, no school prayer, etc. Why worship such a petty diety?

Wtfunny, you support abortion and have no qualms about killing babies. The comparison was between Canaanites & Amorites to the Jews. We already discussed slavery in earlier in this thread and the slaughter of Native Americans was indeed horrific and we are in agreement there.

"Rampant idolatry" which you keep bringing up and you conveniently ignore the child sacrifice, incest and bestiality which the Canaanites practiced.

You mentioned Christ in your post. I inferred you were a Christian. I wasn't overly concerned about which flavor of Christian you are.

Also, I recently experienced a miracle. The Virgin Mary appeared to me and told me to tell you to give me 10% of your income (gross, not net). Since you believe people until you have proof that they're lying, I await your first payment. Well, that, or you shouldn't believe someone when they tell you a miracle occurred until they give sufficient evidence to support their claim, not believe until proven otherwise.

If you don't already know, it's a sin to tell a lie that the Virgin Mary appeared to you and told you to tell me to give me 10% of my income (gross, not net)

You're not only trolling me but you are also making fun of me and my beliefs while I was only trying to explain how I feel and why. I'd suggest that you should be ashamed of yourself, but your last post left me believing you are a very shameful person who is beyond redemption.

I'd very much appreciate it in the future if you could try finding the self-restraint from replying to my posts. I promise I'll never reply to you again.

Just because you can be a cyber space a-hole doesn't mean you have to.:-(

How can you possibly know that he is beyond redemption? For just THAT?

Sloetry in Motion wrote:

thejeff wrote:

I believe I did, by pointing out that they do not apply, yes.

So god doesn't help innocent people worldwide being raped because the US no longer condones school prayer? So god does nothing while children starve to death by the thousands because those children's ancestor's didn't live up to god's impossibly high expectations?

But he loves us........

Your idea of love sounds a lot more like sadomasochism than anything someone reasonable would call love.

Can you please stop repeating yourself? I am growing tired of repeating myself.

Sitting Bull wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Yeah, sorry about the whole smallpox thing. And the Trail of Tears.

FWIW, Christian missionaries such as Bartolomo de las Casas and Evan Jones tried to stop it.

However, the actions of many so-called "Christians" during that era are indefensible.

Did God make smallpox to kill my brothers?

Nope.

Our Father who art in the WH wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Free will :-)

But those people back in the day had free will and God was said to be firebombing them and turning into pillars of salt and killing their firstborn etc.

Yup. They turned their back on God. And yet, we continue to do the same.

Sloetry in Motion wrote:

thejeff wrote:

So, let me get this straight: we disobey God's direct instructions, our world goes into the crapper, and we are supposed to blame God? We kick God out of our schools, our nation's government, and our homes, and yet he is to blame when bad things happen?

How can that possibly make sense to you?

I also want to point out how you're saying that god's love is conditional. You're saying that god doesn't help people because sin, no school prayer, etc. Why worship such a petty diety?

Sometimes, out of love, I let my children experience hardship, so that they will know that when I tell them something, I have their best interest at heart. That does not make my love conditional.

Our Father who art in the WH wrote:

How can you possibly know that he is beyond redemption? For just THAT?

He said "believing".

thejeff wrote:

Sitting Bull wrote:

Did God make smallpox to kill my brothers?

Nope.

Who then?

thejeff wrote:

Our Father who art in the WH wrote:

But those people back in the day had free will and God was said to be firebombing them and turning into pillars of salt and killing their firstborn etc.

Yup. They turned their back on God. And yet, we continue to do the same.

Why doesn't He exact instant retribution and pick favorites today?

Our Father who art in the WH wrote:

How can you possibly know that he is beyond redemption? For just THAT?

How can you possible know that he's not? Shall we be like the two squirrels that keep chase each other around the tree? How far along will that back and forth choreography get us?

I don't know him or his soul. Perhaps and I'm hoping he's not beyond redemption.

Sitting Bull wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Nope.

Who then?

I don't know. I am only like 35 years old.

jamin in jail wrote:

Our Father who art in the WH wrote:

How can you possibly know that he is beyond redemption? For just THAT?

How can you possible know that he's not? Shall we be like the two squirrels that keep chase each other around the tree? How far along will that back and forth choreography get us?

I don't know him or his soul. Perhaps and I'm hoping he's not beyond redemption.

Why would I possibly care? Of all the bad people in the world today you are concerned about a guy you have JUDGED to be an a-hole on the internet?

JUDGE NOT, LEST YE MAY BE JUDGED!!!! or something like that

thejeff wrote:

Sitting Bull wrote:

Who then?

I don't know. I am only like 35 years old.

But you know he didn't make it to kill my brothers and give you this great country that is now suffering because He is not in the schools and government?

Tonight I went to a hilltop on the rez that the White Father(I know the current one is beige) has granted us. I prayed to your God asking that he answer my questions. I asked him why he chose the tribe of the missing foreskins as his children. I asked him why He intervened every time they were threatened and helped them out in every battle. I asked him why He gave them a promised land that resembles a cat litter box which people continue to squabble over today.

I asked him why he let those people come and take over our paradise and crap all over it and produce bad movies.

I waited but the night remained silent, although far off in the distance I heard a Coyote fart.

Our Father who art in The WH wrote:

jamin in jail wrote:

How can you possible know that he's not? Shall we be like the two squirrels that keep chase each other around the tree? How far along will that back and forth choreography get us?

I don't know him or his soul. Perhaps and I'm hoping he's not beyond redemption.

Why would I possibly care? Of all the bad people in the world today you are concerned about a guy you have JUDGED to be an a-hole on the internet?

JUDGE NOT, LEST YE MAY BE JUDGED!!!! or something like that

If you can't quote Scripture verbatim or at least take the time to find the right quote, then you'er just a troll posing as someone who thinks he knows more than what he actually does.

From King James Version,

Matthew 7:1-3

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

I was taught a long time ago, "If you don't know what you are talking about, just keep your mouth shut!" Why do some of you guys feel the need to be so hateful to a group the feels no ill will towards you?:-( I don't believe I'll respond to anymore of your posts either.