Did Duke refuse to grant Wesley Frazier a release?

It appears they refused...teams are always hateful like that, even when it clear they suck and ruin the entire team. It's a shame too, Wesley looks to be in great shape and with her the sisters would be a tremendous 1-2 punch for NC State.

Can she run next year?

Also, what train wreck last year? What happened?

Can she run next year?

Also, what train wreck last year? What happened?

The whole Duke team imploded. They didn't even travel to Regionals. I believe she is eligible for indoor.

If they didn't grant her a release, it sucks, but it's also understandable. A blue chip recruit leaving your program to go to an in-state and in-conference rival? Nope nope nope.

If a coach grants that release, she also admits she's a failure, and that's not going to happen.

Common practice for conferences to have a non-release policy on inter-conference transfer. I've never worked in the ACC, but would bet my 10 toes this it the case. Conferences don't want to encourage cannibalism.

Don't shoot the messenger. Or do. I don't care.

Both the ACC and SEC have strict rules about transferring within the conference. Can't blame this one on Duke. Besides, even if they said no, they invested the money in her and any athlete transferring knows it is a chance they take. Most schools will release people when there is a coaching change. In this case, it is because Wesley made the decision to stay within the ACC.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/acc/genrel/auto_pdf/ACCEligibilityRules.pdf

One reason to consider a release in this case is that the program changed coaches 3 weeks before the start of her sophomore year.

Also, the head coach, Norm Oglive, failed to submit her medical redshirt request during XC freshman year so they blew an extra season for her.

Duke screwed her over a couple of ways and should have given her a full release.

100% agree. Who in their right mind would go to Duke now?

They did everything they could to ruin this poor young woman's career. Blue Devils, indeed.

1 year waiting period in ACC, but she is eligible in Jan. And they got that redshirt back, so she has 2 years of XC left

road rashed wrote:

1 year waiting period in ACC, but she is eligible in Jan. And they got that redshirt back, so she has 2 years of XC left

Jermyn Army wrote:

One reason to consider a release in this case is that the program changed coaches 3 weeks before the start of her sophomore year.

Also, the head coach, Norm Oglive, failed to submit her medical redshirt request during XC freshman year so they blew an extra season for her.

Duke screwed her over a couple of ways and should have given her a full release.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Wow, I didn't know the head coach forgot to submit the paperwork, that's just outright sad and irresponsible

When she ran last fall I was confused to as to why she ran as a SO, she only ran 1 race as a FR and that was a season opener 17:15, so now she only has 2 XC seasons left

From what I'm understanding though for medical redshirts, you can always petition the NCAA at any time for it

There was one woman on our team that wanted to come back for another year to be a 5th year SR, petitioned the NCAA for a medical redshirt from Her FR year and got granted the year, it's worth the try

anyone wrote:

100% agree. Who in their right mind would go to Duke now?

They did everything they could to ruin this poor young woman's career. Blue Devils, indeed.

Dude. She's a college runner. Good luck getting a job out of the state of north carolina with an NC State degree. A Duke degree is like Stanford or the Ivies.

A lot of people get confused. It's the students that make the universities and not vice versa. The Ivies are basically a scam. The case of Wesley Frazier is a perfect example of a so-called excellent school making mincemeat of a top athlete. That is, Duke actually unmade the student, exactly the opposite of what Duke proponents say happens there. Regardless of what happens in their running careers (to which they seem extremely dedicated), you can be certain they will be successful in life, Duke or no Duke.

ivy leaguer wrote:

anyone wrote:

100% agree. Who in their right mind would go to Duke now?

They did everything they could to ruin this poor young woman's career. Blue Devils, indeed.

Dude. She's a college runner. Good luck getting a job out of the state of north carolina with an NC State degree. A Duke degree is like Stanford or the Ivies.

They should make a 30 for 30 on the downfall of Duke's female program. Weren't they the best team in the country in 2005? Rowbury..Horowitz..like 5 other studs. Now that in 2014...yuck. And I'm a Duke fan.

Medical waivers don't have to be submitted until the individual's final year of eligibility. It's incorrect to state that this can't still be done, though it's likely more difficult if the person is attending a different university from the one where the injury occurred. However, the individual needs his/her medical records and since that information belongs to the individual, the previous university can't legally deny her that information.

my point is that kids have choices other than duke vs nc state. how bout georgetown? uva? notre dame? unc? vandy?

again, why would anyone in their right mind run at duke when they're are so many great alternatives?