NRR: Why is the Pope's visit such a big deal?

You're so cool.

He is one of the most power people in the world in that there are 1.2 billion Roman Catholics that follow his lead.

I certainly agree with you. Nobody should have such power or garner such attention.

That being said, it makes me happy that he's become so progressive these days.

Catholics are liberal as a 3 dollar bill.

Guido Sarducci wrote:

Granted, I am neither Catholic nor of any religious persuasion, but I still can't figure out why everyone is making such a fuss about Pope Frankie visiting the United States.

I mean, the guy isn't a saint. He wasn't appointed to his position by God or any other deity. The Pope is essentially nothing more than an elected official who presides over one of the world's largest businesses (one subsidiary of which, the Vatican Bank, is among the most corrupt). Do other countries go bananas when Bill Gates visits? The POTUS traveling abroad usually gets some headlines, but no one really cares.

I don't get it....

Bill Gates doesn't make proclamations that have a direct and immediate impact on people's lives regarding issues like marriage, divorce, birth control, etc.

22% of the U.S. population is Catholic. It is the largest religious body in the country and includes almost all Hispanics - the fastest growing population.

I'm neither Catholic nor religious but I can recognize the importance of the visit.

Guido Sarducci wrote:

Granted, I am neither Catholic nor of any religious persuasion, but I still can't figure out why everyone is making such a fuss about Pope Frankie visiting the United States.

I mean, the guy isn't a saint. He wasn't appointed to his position by God or any other deity. The Pope is essentially nothing more than an elected official who presides over one of the world's largest businesses (one subsidiary of which, the Vatican Bank, is among the most corrupt). Do other countries go bananas when Bill Gates visits? The POTUS traveling abroad usually gets some headlines, but no one really cares.

I don't get it....

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I'm a libtard wrote:

He is one of the most power people in the world in that there are 1.2 billion Roman Catholics that follow his lead.

I certainly agree with you. Nobody should have such power or garner such attention.

That being said, it makes me happy that he's become so progressive these days.

And it makes me so sad how he has so politicized his papacy. He committed to come to America to talk about family but instead talks climate change (hoax), immigration, etc. He meets in Cuba with the murderous regime, thereby legitimizing it, while refusing to meet with recently jailed dissidents. Oh, but he can meet with US prisoners to highlight how awful America is. He is no different than Chuck Schumer, and I am a Catholic. Leave politics out of the papacy.

Pollly P wrote:

[quote]I'm a libtard wrote:

Leave politics out of the papacy.

haahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, that's a good one Polly!

Guido Sarducci wrote:

I'm a libtard wrote: That being said, it makes me happy that he's become so progressive these days.

Again, I'm far from an expert on the rules of that particular cult, but my understanding is that the Pope is not really all that progressive. He has done the right thing in suggesting that his flock stop focusing on some of the ridiculous prejudices that it has held near and dear for centuries, but it's not as if he's proactively pushing to overturn ancient manmade dogma. When he makes a move to allow female priests, honor gay marriage, lay off outdated ideas against birth control, etc., I will believe that he's progressive. For now, he's just being mildly sensible.

Good trolling. you waited until your second post to drop "cult", "prejudices", and "dogma" into it. Is your third post going to be where you bring out "sky wizard"? Consult your anti-religious trolling handbook.

I also don't really get the pope thing because I'm not catholic, but I do get and respect that it's a big big deal to catholics.

Don?

Is that you?

Pollly P wrote: Leave politics out of the papacy.

A more constructive directive would be to leave the papacy and religion in general out of...well...everything. Believe what you will, but keep it inside the church walls. Or better yet, inside one's own mind and heart.

It's fine if the pope is political. It's not fine if US congress gives him a platform.

elephino wrote: Good trolling. you waited until your second post to drop "cult", "prejudices", and "dogma" into it.

I don't see that it's trolling. The term "cult" fits. (Look it up.) Like it or not, prejudices exist in most religions, and the Catholic "religion" (happy now?) is among the most guilty in that regard just by virtue of the size of its following. And what is derogatory about the word dogma?

Your post is argumentative and without substance. Hey, I don't give a rat's rump that people are going nuts over the Pope. I was just asking why. So far, no one has offered a reasonable explanation. I suppose that would get in the way of their prime objective to simply rip my opinion.

I hope this thread gets deleted very soon. I can already see that it's going to deteriorate in a bunch of close-minded and divisive posts. Hmm, what can I do to speed its deletion... "Conservatives are jerks and Jordan Hasay has a nice butt." There, that usually does the trick.

Guido Sarducci wrote:

Pollly P wrote: Leave politics out of the papacy.

A more constructive directive would be to leave the papacy and religion in general out of...well...everything. Believe what you will, but keep it inside the church walls. Or better yet, inside one's own mind and heart.

Ok, keep your anti-religious rhetoric inside your mind. I won't say heart, because that would be too metaphorical and pseudo-religious for one as rational as you.

Pollly P wrote:

He is no different than Chuck Schumer, and I am a Catholic.

Not a very good one, apparently.

outside the U.S., there aren't a lot of climate-change deniers or anti-environmentalists by ideology, so they find your attitude ludicrous. There is a reasonable interpretation of the Bible as urging environmentalism, that we be good stewards to planet Earth. There is also a lot that you might want to ignore about helping the poor.

jjjjjj wrote:

outside the U.S., there aren't a lot of climate-change deniers or anti-environmentalists by ideology, so they find your attitude ludicrous. There is a reasonable interpretation of the Bible as urging environmentalism, that we be good stewards to planet Earth. There is also a lot that you might want to ignore about helping the poor.

Outside the US no one gives a damn about Global Warming (hoax). Tell me which Asian or Middle Eastern countries specifically are in favor of reducing CO2 emissions as a widespread policy. Which countries - each and ever one.

Guido Sarducci wrote:

Hey, I don't give a rat's rump that people are going nuts over the Pope. I was just asking why. So far, no one has offered a reasonable explanation.

That's not true.

In the 3rd post - I'm a libtard posted "He is one of the most power people in the world in that there are 1.2 billion Roman Catholics that follow his lead."

In the 5th post - olives posted "22% of the U.S. population is Catholic. It is the largest religious body in the country and includes almost all Hispanics - the fastest growing population."

That is why this visit is such a big deal. It is his first visit and he is the leader of a religion that has 1.2 billion people worldwide and 22% of the US population.

He is also only the 4th Pope to visit the US so it's not like this is an everyday occurrence. Pope Benedict XVI came in 2008, Pope John Paul II came 7 times between 1979-1999 and Pope Paul VI came in 1965. So there have only been 10 visits to the United States by the Pope in US history and this is only the 2nd time in the last 15 years.

Pollly P wrote:

Which countries - each and ever one.

China-

Japan-

India-

You can look up the rest on your own, you ignorant sloth.

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