Anyone with experience on Igloi style training

What distances do you plan to race?

Do you do any runs that aren't intervals?

Assuming you aren't: The decent 400m times make sense. You could struggle to finish 800m. I can't see you running any distances over that.

To be fair, I should answer you actual question.

No, I have not tried to train that way.

But I have done workouts similar to that at less intensity amid my distance training to help build speed. Doing that on top of a base seemed very helpful to my events if I did the workout on rare occasion. I just don't think it would be effective regularly.

Zatopek did comparable workouts at higher distances like 300m that added up to many miles and it translated to 5k fitness.

bro, you should be doing sets of 4 to 6 when lifting weights to get that massive style. That is what girls want, bro. They want mass, bro

Hi,

I haven't been doing anything at this stage other than the 30 x 100m and the daily weights and 20 minutes skipping.

I plan to run the 800 or maybe even the 1500. I plan to introduce some long runs, intervals, etc.

Just really at the start of working out a plan and considering do I follow a full Igloi training program or something more traditional.

Thanks for the reply.

cheers

Thanks, but already got the wife and the only girl I chase now is my daughter :)

Thanks, I'll look at incorporating some bulk 300's

The only olympic 5000m gold medalist from the US did Igloi style training. Bob Schul posts here very occasionally; he would likely be the best person to ask about Igloi training.

Thanks, I've read a bit about him. That would be an honour to hear his thoughts.

I'm interested to hear as many peoples opinions as possible, because I really can't understand why more people don't seem to follow the training principle. Maybe I yet to see the downside, I don't know, but I enjoy the intervals and it seems to deliver pretty quick results to this level.

I think the weight training has a large part to do with it as well. I find that I seem to get a bit of a cardio workout lifting for 45 seconds to 100 seconds straight, small rest and repeat.

cheers

Mihaly Igloi convert wrote:

I'm doing the 100m with a rolling start and doing them at 12.5-13.5 seconds and then I rest for 1 minute and repeat for 30.

His runners ran much slower than that, and took slower recoveries.

But your training is better for 400 & 800 meters.

Coach Igloi's system was Mihaly Igloi. He watched every step his runners took.. I have posted on Letsrun.com and on the legends lounge of Tracktalk.net

There is a 15 page thread on Letsrun started by dc449 on June 5, 2004. Bob Schul has posted on that thread. Google is my friend.

Thanks.

I'm thinking of keeping the 30 x 100's in my programme, but maybe twice a week, also some 200's or 300's, 500 repeats every so often. At this stage I'd like to do skipping everyday of 30 minutes+ and one 6-10 mile slow run each week rather than regular road running.

I'm trying to ensure I don't loose any of the speed I've built up because of all the weight training. As a 20 year old I could run high 10's with a rolling start and about 11.5 with a crouch. Now many years later I'm probably a bit quicker and I can only put it down to the weight training, even though its light weights.

Or I'm just weird and developed really late :) Joking!

cheers

Thanks, I'll check it out.

Yeah, he seemed pretty amazing from what I've read. I know a few people seem to follow it successfully, but it surprises me more coaches don't use it for a least some of there runners.

We can't all train the same way.

Thank you for the heads up on the link. I'm enjoying the read so far. That must have been an amazing experience to have been coached by him!

I've done very very little about trying to change my style when fatigued, but I must admit when I have tried it, it does feel like I'm able to squeeze out some extra effort.

I think Igloi really had something special. Light years ahead of everyone else!

Thank you. Yes it was an amazing experience training under Coach Igloi. By the way he gave his workouts in sets and changed the next set depending on how you ran. Also, you never knew when the end was coming. "Must have big goals.

Also amazing, was the 5 years before that during which I ran with the East York Track Club Coach Fred Foot, Bruce Kidd, Bill Crothers, David Bailey and others. It was mostly intervals with some Lydiard in the spring and fall. There are threads on Letsrun.come and the legends lounge of Tracktalk.net that might interest you.

Coach Igloi's Hungarian team was amazing until he had to leave in 1956.

Amazing. Thank you. I'll make sure to check them all out. Did weights ever play a role in his strategy? Core strength? cheers

Did not use weights nor did we stretch much in those days. We all had full time jobes and felt we did not have time for such things. In fact, we of The East York Track Club believed that we ran with our legs and that arms were just there for balance. In winter we became superior at indoor racing. Our training was on an eleven and a half per lap a mile track. Bill Crothers went at least one year undefeated in 800/1000 on the indoor circuit. In those days Track was a big sport and there were one or two races every weekend in the witer. Our motto was "Keep it short"

Thanks. I'd get dizzy running in circles :)

Maybe that is why I am always dizzy. When Igloi moved I stayed on the same 653 yard oval of grass. All of Igloi's workouts had been on the track or that field. We often had to climb a 7+foot fence to get there. Some work outs consisted of 45+ laps of the field. With Igloi it was 13 workouts a week.

I should have run half of them the other way around. My back is warped. Also if you race on the road you need some workouts on pavement and some on hills. But there was no traffic and others could join me or I could join others when I got there I was there 9 years. It was fun!