People on the Internets are Morans regarding Ashton Eaton

Speaking as a non- American, I know who Ashton Eaton is, but I couldn't name a single NFL player.

Therefore Eaton is clearly a superior athlete, as his achievements have actually transcended borders

The best criticism of Eaton's athleticism is he's not the best at throwing shit.

That's the one thing humans are really good at. Animals can run much faster and jump much higher but they live in awe of our ability to throw pointy things at them from far away.

The best human athlete should be good in events where humans are strong.

Bad Wigins wrote:

The best criticism of Eaton's athleticism is he's not the best at throwing shit.

That's the one thing humans are really good at. Animals can run much faster and jump much higher but they live in awe of our ability to throw pointy things at them from far away.

The best human athlete should be good in events where humans are strong.

I'm always split on your posts. Sometimes you have some really thoughtful stuff to say, other times I'd swear you've got to be trolling.

This is one of the former, I'm sure many will reject it but it's an interesting perspective that is certainly true.

I'm now curious to what extent out similar cousins such as chimps, baboons, or apes can throw and to what extent.

Bad Wigins wrote:

The best criticism of Eaton's athleticism is he's not the best at throwing shit.

That's the one thing humans are really good at. Animals can run much faster and jump much higher but they live in awe of our ability to throw pointy things at them from far away.

The best human athlete should be good in events where humans are strong.

He is good at throwing stuff. He's just not as good as guys who specialize in throwing or as some other decathletes. I would bet money that he could out-throw anyone on this board.

Bad Wigins wrote:

The best criticism of Eaton's athleticism is he's not the best at throwing shit.

That's the one thing humans are really good at. Animals can run much faster and jump much higher but they live in awe of our ability to throw pointy things at them from far away.

The best human athlete should be good in events where humans are strong.

I agree.

However, let's do this right and include a shot put and javelin CATCH.

Thank you for your consideration.

NFL has it's own set of criteria, which measure shorter distance and more power but would like to see any of the greats currently or from the past 50 years give the decathlon a try.

That said what the all time event bests from NFLers?

100 - Bob Hayes, Willie Gault

HH - Nehemiah

LJ - ?

SP - Michael Carter

Etc.

Well Jim Thorpe got a Decathlon gold.

Glenn Davis won 3 gold medals, 2 in the 400 hurdles and 1 in the 4x400m

Also, from what I can find.

100m - Jim Hines 9.95 (Oly Gold, Mexico City) Played in only 11 games over two years, nicknamed "oops" because of his poor hands. Outside of him Jacoby Ford 10.00 and Jeff Demps 10.01

400m - Rod Jones, 44.94, Larry Jones 44.98

110hh - Renaldo Nehemiah, 12.93 (played for the 49ers for 3 years) Gault is second 13.26, followed by Rod Woodson 13.29, Jabari Greer 13.32

LJ - Eric Metcalf, 8.44m (27'8") (3 time Pro Bowler)

HJ - Percell Gaskins 2.27m (7'5") Played two years, 15 games with the Panthers

4 time Pro-Bowler Herman Moore went 2.21m (7'3")

SP - Michael Carter, obviously, at 21.76m (71' 4.5")..fun fact, the second best NFL shot guy of all time was Jeff Stover, at 20.86m, who played for the 49ers at the same time as Carter

Disc - Christian Okoye 64.72m (2 time Pro Bowler

Brutal is that you? Only the infamous Brutal could whip off T&F with NFL recall like that.

^^^

Welcome back Brutal. Looking forward to your idiotic posts.

Sorry, I am not Brutal. I just happened to have a copy of an article from a few years back that had all that info. In fact it was a whole lot deeper than what I posted, but I did have to add a few, as the article did not have Jim Hines and Demps was still in college when the article came out.

The only ones I knew without the article were Hines, Metcalf and Carter

M.C. Confusing wrote:

Well Jim Thorpe got a Decathlon gold.

HJ - Percell Gaskins 2.27m (7'5") Played two years, 15 games with the Panthers

Donald Driver went 2.30 (7-6.5) in the High Jump. Not kidding.

MisterArms wrote:

Donald Driver went 2.30 (7-6.5) in the High Jump. Not kidding.

he did not. From that same article I was quoting:

"Donald Driver of the Green Bay Packers is commonly credited with jumping 7' 6" or better in college at Alcorn State, but this is simply not true. His best mark ever reported is 7' 4½", listed in the USATF Annual as a "questionable performance" (a designation not given out lightly, so it's highly likely to be a bogus mark). He never competed at an NCAA Championships, and Track and Field News has no mention of him whatsoever, either on their annual lists (going down to 7' 1¾") or at the SWAC Championships."

Here is the better question: Could Eaton beat the NFL in a decathlon? All the NFL teams are about to trim their rosters to 53. Could the NFL, using those thirty-two, 53-man rosters select 10 guys (one per event) that could beat Eaton's recent WR or perhaps his PR's? I think it would be close, which is amazing. However, I think the NFL would win, unless they NH/scratch/foul out of an event.

Oh, and I think the 10 guys that are chosen have like 1 month to prepare.

100m - Slight edge to NFL - Eaton can run 10.2. Trindon Holliday is still in the league, so I'm betting he can still run under 10.2. There are probably dozens of guys who can run in the 10.2 range.

LJ - NFL wins here too, despite the fact that it's one of Eatons best events. Marquise Goodwin went 8.37m (27-05.5) recently, so he is still in top form. Again, not a big margin either way.

HJ - NFL, probably. Driver retired, so I'm not sure who to pencil in. But you have to figure there is a 7-footer among them. Eatons PR is 6-11, but he can't do that consistently. Again, not a big margin.

Shot - Easy win for NFL, by a large margin. Basically any lineman would beat him, but there are a few 65+ guys in the NFL.

400m - Eaton here. 45.00 is freaking legit. No guy in the NFL could do that w/o training for a long time and losing weight. Am I wrong? Eaton coudl make up some ground here.

After day 1, the NFL leads, but the only large margin of victory was the shot.

110H - Eaton I think. His recent WR wasn't THAT impressive, but his PR of 13.35 (!!!) is crazy fast. I don't know of any elite hurdlers in the NFL right now. However, that doesn't mean there aren't any. The kid from Oregon will probably make a squad before long.

Disc - Easy win by NFL. Margus Hunt.

Jav. - Another easy win (probably) for the NFL. I don't know who, but there have to be plenty that beat him. I'll just say JJ Watt, just for fun.

PV - easy win and wild card for Eaton. The risk of the NFL guy getting no mark or a complete crap mark is high. I bet there is an ex-vaulter in the NFL, but I bet he is rusty, and I bet he wasnt really that good.

1500m - I thinjk eatons wins here as well, but it's tough to make up many points. There is probably some young DB that could log a semi-decent time.

On Day 2, I think Eaton wins 3 of 5 events, but can't overcome the deficit in the throws.

There you have it. Flame away!

People on the internets know who Eaton is?

LM wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

The best criticism of Eaton's athleticism is he's not the best at throwing shit.

That's the one thing humans are really good at. Animals can run much faster and jump much higher but they live in awe of our ability to throw pointy things at them from far away.

The best human athlete should be good in events where humans are strong.

I'm always split on your posts. Sometimes you have some really thoughtful stuff to say, other times I'd swear you've got to be trolling.

This is one of the former, I'm sure many will reject it but it's an interesting perspective that is certainly true.

I'm now curious to what extent out similar cousins such as chimps, baboons, or apes can throw and to what extent.

Apes and chimps were created by God, they are not our cousins. Thank you.

Look, I'm gonna clear it up for you boneheads...

Ashton is the best decathlete to ever live. Dan O'Brien has the higher PR total, but just didn't compete in the event as consistent as AE.

As for the NFL and whatnot, there are a lot of physical freaks out there, so yeah, I'm sure there are a number of guys with the physical abilities to score out of this world, but they lack the mental capacity to operate and perform at the ultra-elite level. Teach AE some skills of positions, and we'd see some impressive ability fairly quickly.

It's only a matter of time before he puts together a meet consistent with what we just saw, but with a 15.50 SP, a 47.50 Disc, and 69m Jav. When he does this, some folks will have to think twice about criticizing his throwing ability.

How do you know his hand eye coordination is even on a college football players level?

Lack the mental toughness?

Really?

When does Eaton ever have a group of steroid pumped monsters trying to rip him apart to get a bonus?

Or compete against literally millions upon millions of other athletes for their spot?

How many professional decatheletes are there? Like 4?

Linemen tear up their bodies so bad that many are disabled by the time they hit 40. They play through that pain. They get head injuries constantly and still play.

I'm not saying Eaton doesn't have mental toughness. I'm saying they all do at that level and I think it's a joke to say otherwise. Being the best at what you do in your line of work requires tons of mental toughness regardless of what the amateurs think.

Probably more morons than Morans on the internet these days.