Just ran 4:21 1600 with splits of 67, 68, 67, 59

Of the top of my head, I'd say something like 4:15.

Flattened out wrote:

What could I have run with more ideal splits?

up to 5s faster?

Flattened out wrote:

What could I have run with more ideal splits?

Wait ..... you ran almost perfectly even splits, then kicked in a sub 60 last lap?

Those are ideal splits for most people here this time of the year.

I'd like to know the last 4 100 splits on that last lap if you have them.

Let's put that 59 into Ventolin's prediction machine.

Oh my God, you'll be getting a call from AlSal.

1:39/3:24

depends on whether 64s or 65s would have felt comfortable for you. It seems like they would have. you'll run a lot faster this year. fine start.

I ran a 1500 race like that with a similar conversion time last year (4:05 1500). and finished the year at 3:52 (4:08/4:09 for 1600). I'd say on the same day I could've gone 3:56-3:57 with ideal pacing, which is a 4:13-4:14. The same likely goes for you.

These estimates are a bit generous. Five seconds faster is the max I would allow you. Probably more like 3 or 4.

Flattened out wrote:

What could I have run with more ideal splits?

obviously helluva lot quicker

maths won't give you an answer from flattening splits

it's a few tenths/1s off for even pace for only few laps

( i did the maths

it is never generous

lesson of life :

maths always hurts unless you listen to your teacher & learn hard work )

the answer can only come off your 400 / 800 ability that day & what your

"drop of"

was to 1600

( what you think you had that day )

lotta 4'20 guys with big kick

here are some end-points to

"perfect"

4'20 /1600

for 600 / 800 / 1k / 1500

off best possible current 400

54.00 ->

1'25.83

1'59.00

2'33.18

4'01.83

to

44.00 ->

1'15.21

1'49.00

2'24.70

4'00.08

those are mathematical parameters i keep being asked for a ( helluva lot )

"perfect"

4'20

( 1600m )

there are enough stats there

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Very nice. To run those splits and come back with a 59 last lap is pretty good, but I feel like that tells me you had more in the tank. I believe you started out a bit slow -- probably could have run somewhere in the ballpark of 4:17-4:19.

My thinking is, if you would have gone out in, let's say 64-65, that would have set you up perfectly:

1st lap: 64

2nd lap: 66 (let's say you settled into your pace here at this point) (800m = 2:10)

3rd lap: 67 (almost every miler's "slow" lap... so let's just assume...)

4th lap: 62 (800m = 2:09)

Total 1600m: 4:19

Of course, this could vary... you could even go 61, 63, 67, 65 and that would give you a 4:17... You positive split almost every lap, but you ran a little more aggressively from the start.

Depends on the type of runner you are. Just based off of the splits you ran your 4:21, you seemed conservative (at least for the examale you posted).

4:18 ~ maybe

you can run 67 mostly aerobically.

which means that probably you can go 6 laps at that pace.

so a pretty good 3000 m is possible - within reach.

anyway, without the cool math calcs, you can set up a finish at 65 seconds average lap and bring it in 63 ish. like 64-65-66-63.

what's that?

4:18 or even 4:16 is possible especially with drafting in the right race.

That was legit hilarious omg

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