Rosa bonks Stanford loses title

even if rosa won, colorado still beats stanford...

Oh OK. Good race for Stanford otherwise

Even if Stanford 7th man Jack Keelan had finished 1st instead of 100th, Colorado would have won. The buffs destroyed Stanford.

Plains Cow wrote:

Even if Stanford 7th man Jack Keelan had finished 1st instead of 100th, Colorado would have won. The buffs destroyed Stanford.

The beat a good Stanford performance; they destroyed everyone else.

The bigger headline is Stanford doesn't choke, does better than expected. Haven't seen them do this well at nationals in a decade or more.

Do the Rosa's still have XC eligibility? Stanford could be great next year with the Rosas, Mcgorty, Ostberg, Fisher, and Wharton.

Yes, Joe & Jim will be back next year.

As will everyone else on their 27-man roster save Maks, Atchoo and Bertolotti.

And, the women's team will have everyone back from their 22-woman roster including Cuffe, Chapus, Lacy, Mehra and Saunders who all ran at last year's NCAA meet but had to miss this race today because of a variety of injuries.

Next year and beyond should be like the old Vin Lananna & Peter Tegan-era years -- around 1995 - 2005 -- when both teams were making the podium most every year.

GO Stanford wrote:

Otherwise a great team effort by Stanford men

It was the stupid sunglasses that Rosa started off in. Cocky and trying to be cool , maybe next year he can focus on the race.

This was a tough year for a runner like the Rosas. They grind it out on a hard pace better than kicking fast off a slow pace.

Two teams being under 100 points is great and they were a lot closer to Colorado than expected. Both teams had 5 All Americans which is a great feat.

Cardbuff wrote:

This was a tough year for a runner like the Rosas. They grind it out on a hard pace better than kicking fast off a slow pace.

Two teams being under 100 points is great and they were a lot closer to Colorado than expected. Both teams had 5 All Americans which is a great feat.

My whole point exactly. Stanford was the surprise of the day, even with Rosa ( 13:3X 5000) losing 20-25 spots the last 2K.

To cool for school wrote:

It was the stupid sunglasses that Rosa started off in. Cocky and trying to be cool , maybe next year he can focus on the race.

Exactly! Anyone wearing sunglasses is obviously NOT thinking about the RACE!

I'm still surprised that a 13:31 5k runner would not be able to handle 2k at 4:32 1600m pace (5:40) off of a very slow pace for these guys, because that's not a hard kick but just 2k at roughly 14:04 5k pace. He must have been not feeling well.

jjjjjjj wrote:

I'm still surprised that a 13:31 5k runner would not be able to handle 2k at 4:32 1600m pace (5:40) off of a very slow pace for these guys, because that's not a hard kick but just 2k at roughly 14:04 5k pace. He must have been not feeling well.

Just so you know, 14:04 5k pace on xc terrain is not the same as 14:04 pace on the track.

How can Stanford carry a larger roster for men than women? Isn't it usually the other way around?

If Jim Rosa was 5th again this year, Colorado only wins by like 2 points.

rosa wrote:

If Jim Rosa was 5th again this year, Colorado only wins by like 2 points.

If Hursyz ran as well as he did in 2012, they win by more.

If Pearson ran, they win by more.

See how this game is stupid? They ran what they ran.

GO Stanford wrote:

Otherwise a great team effort by Stanford men

Joe would have benefited from a faster earlier pace; overall Stanford has to be pleased.

Did anyone watch letsruns post race interview with Rosa/Korolev.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/11/video-stanfords-maksim-korolev-joe-rosa-2nd-place-finish-2014-ncaas/

They raved about the coaching staff and said that was the key to them overachieving - not underachieving this year.

Did anyone besides me think that was weird. I did for these reasons

1) It's the same coaching staff - whose brilliance theoretically would have stopped them from choking the last few years.

2) It was being said by two guys who did worse than they did last year. Korolev was 3rd running for a nobody of a coach and Rosa (well his twin) was top 10 wasn't he?

I think Milt is good. He's saved the Rosas. I thought after year 1, they were going to be total collegiate busts but the way runners will rave about coaches has nothing to do with reality. If a coach is good at creating 'a cult feeling' then runner's rave about him or here, when in reality, Korolev is the perfect example that talent is key.

I definitely would not say that Maks ran worse than last year. If anything it's about an equal run. He was one spot behind a guy he was one spot ahead of last year and was also beaten by a 13:18/7:46 guy who DNC in 13.

Another great run for ol' Maksy.